Zeovit

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13185462#post13185462 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
Some one mentioned the "off" phase this is only reccomended for new zeo tanks is this something borrowed and adapted to the matrix thing? I am lost As to why people avoid zeoliths when they are so well suited to ULNS systems

Well I added matrix 8 months(not sure) ago. Havent changed it yet. Just a cleaning once a month.

So I ask you, why use ZEO with all the extra plunging and changing? :)

I have no hair algae, and zeo AA's and other sups have given me great color.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13185757#post13185757 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by skippyreef
What Zeoliths would you recommend?

Elos or ZEO, tunze makes one also but i know nothing about it.


Zerdar dont think i am passing judgement on your methods, as we all know you dont need zeo or any of these supplements to grow corals but some of us choose to go the road less traveled.

The "plunging" like the off cycle are SUGGESTED as part of the ZEOvit system but not rules for all ULNS, lets not derail the question i asked is directed towards the reason why you would choose to not use the ion exchanging properties of the zeolites.

also i am playing devils advocate asking all those participating in hybrid zeovit systems to question their methods just as many have question the zeo method in the past.

honestly i see lots of correlation that might not prove causation, Questioning things is good i think. Give me a an answer i like and i go away. ;)


i am interested in how and why things work when meso used to post in these threads i loved it.





Skippy who was that question directed towards?
 
Well Back when I started using matrix, I was motivated by price mostly.

Since then, the price of Zeo has dropped. But since the matrix worked so well I've seen no need to switch.

I also was intrigued by the experimental aspect. Would this combination work? If so why?
Its just the way i am. I like venturing into uncharted waters.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13187314#post13187314 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GSMguy
Elos or ZEO, tunze makes one also but i know nothing about it.


Zerdar dont think i am passing judgement on your methods, as we all know you dont need zeo or any of these supplements to grow corals but some of us choose to go the road less traveled.

The "plunging" like the off cycle are SUGGESTED as part of the ZEOvit system but not rules for all ULNS, lets not derail the question i asked is directed towards the reason why you would choose to not use the ion exchanging properties of the zeolites.

also i am playing devils advocate asking all those participating in hybrid zeovit systems to question their methods just as many have question the zeo method in the past.

honestly i see lots of correlation that might not prove causation, Questioning things is good i think. Give me a an answer i like and i go away. ;)


i am interested in how and why things work when meso used to post in these threads i loved it.





Skippy who was that question directed towards?

Just to add some more to the "plunging" thought, there's a simple reason to do this.... food for corals. This is a sorta means of export, either the corals consume the bacteriaplankton or the skimmer exports it, and new cultures grow in the reactor (further consuming nutrients to grow).... It's not really complicated to do... as far as whether something works or not, I'm sure that Matrix can grow biofilms, any submerged media, even panes of glass can.
 
I stopped the Zeo process, but I'm still adding some of the Zeo supplements. What I'm dosing in a 130g net system is:

Coral Vitalizer - 2 drops/day
Amino Acids - 2 drops/day
Coral Snow - 4ml 2x/week mixed with AAHC and CV

I'm getting some "stringy" cyan on the rock, powerheads, and off the coral tips. Can the 2 drops of AAHC and CV be too much?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13212002#post13212002 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sprite
my guess if any of them was the cause it would be the AAHC.
Maybe I'll cut the AAHC back to 1 drop/day
 
Im not even sure i would add the AAHC untill your certain you running at a very low nutrient system with out any nuciance algae. I would continue to dose coralsnow and the coral vit but i think i would stop the AAHC or only do it once a week.
 
I am still fighting the green hair algae...I really feel that the fix to this stuff is a tang or foxface...
 
I hada bad alk swing with striving for natural seawater levels then I had to stop v/s/v doses and the algae resturned. Just added a coil denitrator to resolve high NO3, steady kalk drip to resolve alk and now back on the v/s/v corals are recovering. I used all my ZEO supps except a bit of coral snow. Didn see much change color wise while using them. May explore the brightwell products. Hope others are getting better results with this method.
 
I added a kalk reactor too help raise the pH. The tank was at 7.9 And i felt raising it would help grow corals faster. I believe its working. I'm seeing coraline growing again.

Ive been battling low pH for years. Even before carbon dosing. Carbon dosing certainly didnt help.

I'm now at 8.1 and happy with that.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13296953#post13296953 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Husky_1
I am still fighting the green hair algae...I really feel that the fix to this stuff is a tang or foxface...

I would strongly disagree. I tried everything that is suppose to eat it, nothing worked.

Carbon dosing worked!!!! Its the only thing that worked.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13300613#post13300613 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zedar
I added a kalk reactor too help raise the pH. The tank was at 7.9 And i felt raising it would help grow corals faster. I believe its working. I'm seeing coraline growing again.

Ive been battling low pH for years. Even before carbon dosing. Carbon dosing certainly didnt help.

I'm now at 8.1 and happy with that.

I too am in the process of deciding whether a Kalk reactor would be a good decision or not. The steady drip method is working quite well but I think a kalk reactor may be a better bet. How hard are they to run zedar? I am trying not to do too many other changes right now since we are looking to buy a house and moving is going to be a disaster.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13300655#post13300655 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sailfintang
I too am in the process of deciding whether a Kalk reactor would be a good decision or not. The steady drip method is working quite well but I think a kalk reactor may be a better bet. How hard are they to run zedar? I am trying not to do too many other changes right now since we are looking to buy a house and moving is going to be a disaster.

I built my own reactor. The key to success is dripping SLOWLY!!!
I fill the reactor with Kalk powder once a month and thats it. It adds it as part of my top off.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13302874#post13302874 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Husky_1
Zedar, I am using zeo right now, so in practice I am in agreement.

How long have you been using it? It takes time. It took 3 months for my tank to be algae free. Let me rephrase that. Almost algae free. Ive learned that if there isnt any algae growing, then the tank is too sterile.
Even on a natural reef algae grows. I could dose heavy and kill all the algae, but the corals would suffer.

The beauty of this system is, I control the nutrient export.

Are you adding any of their other additives?
How much are you feeding?
How old is the tank?
How old is the live rock?
Do you have a DSB? How old is it?

What you should be trying to determine is, how much nutrient is sequestered in the system. Thats whats going to be the deciding factor in how long it will take before you see results.
 
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