zoa id help
- Thread starter sweet d
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this guy has them labeled as tub's blues
http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t207585-50.html
scroll down, he has the exact same ones
http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t207585-50.html
scroll down, he has the exact same ones
swannyson7
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Definitely not Tubbs (They have a solid blue disc with greenish brown skirts), they look like "Eye of Rah" or "orange nipples" to me.
http://zoaid.com/index.php?module=Gallery2&g2_itemId=347
http://zoaid.com/index.php?module=Gallery2&g2_itemId=906
http://zoaid.com/index.php?module=Gallery2&g2_itemId=347
http://zoaid.com/index.php?module=Gallery2&g2_itemId=906
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icycoral
I glue animals to rocks
?maybe these but washed out looking?
http://www.coralpedia.com/index.php?module=Gallery2&g2_itemId=770
http://www.coralpedia.com/index.php?module=Gallery2&g2_itemId=770
fishieness
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Who cares? 
For a lot of zoas, especially some of the more common ones (and a lot of the ugly ones, not that I'm saying yours are ugly...) will have many different names, each one as ridiculous as the last...
For a lot of zoas, especially some of the more common ones (and a lot of the ugly ones, not that I'm saying yours are ugly...) will have many different names, each one as ridiculous as the last...
Who cares?
For a lot of zoas, especially some of the more common ones (and a lot of the ugly ones, not that I'm saying yours are ugly...) will have many different names, each one as ridiculous as the last...
Right.... some of the common names they pick now days...
sweet d
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wow seems alot of poeple seeing has there is a site dedicated to zoanthids and their names
i didnt know about coralpedia ill jave to look through it see if i find something similar.
sweet d
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no they arent washed out but thank you very much for the link to that site.
sweet d
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thanks i think i agree with you on the first one eye of rah.thanks for the link also.
icycoral
I glue animals to rocks
Who cares?
For a lot of zoas, especially some of the more common ones (and a lot of the ugly ones, not that I'm saying yours are ugly...) will have many different names, each one as ridiculous as the last...
For someone who's been on RC as long as you have you should know how ridiculous that statement is. Thanks for your opinion, though I think if anyone wanted to hear that the tittle of the thread would have been please bash my new zoanthid.
haha that's all relative
my favorite colony is a mix of orange and green zoas. I would've gladly paid more for those than my dragon eyes, which i still love but are "more rare." I have others but i have no idea of their names at all! All i want in my tank are corals that POP when I turn on my blue led moonlight, so I look for orange and green. my green palys are the coolest coral in my tank because they are so visible when the moonlight is on.
fishieness
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You completely misread my post. In no way was I bashing anyone's corals. I was saying the whole naming thing is pretty ridiculous and how everything has to have a name. Sure, there are some things that pretty much all look the same if colored up right where a name is beneficial, such as a rainbow monti. But all the random names given to corals, many of which aren't even rare or colorful, are just to build hype so sellers can make more money. I wasn't saying no one should care about the coral in question, but that no one should care about the name.
icycoral
I glue animals to rocks
Your absolutely, right I completely misread that.
Fact is if you didn't have a name you would just be another human. And the only way to distinguish you would be by your characteristics. Slightly narcistic. Same with corals. You could describe a purple hornet as a zoanthid with a purple center yellow ring an alternating purple and yellow skirt. It's much easier to call it a purple hornet. And when selling corals it's not the name that causes hype its the demand for the coral and lack of supply that does. The name just makes it easier for those of us in the hobby to obtain the coral we are after. Adding a nick name does not add value or hype, it takes away confusion when trying to obtain a coral.
And it sounded like you said even though his wasn't ugly, they only name the ugly and common zoa's and give them ridiculous names.
fishieness
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I do see your point to an extent. I really do and there was a time I agreed with you. However it's completely ridiculous to make the analogy of a zoanthid to a human. How can you say it's *narcissistic to describe and judge a coral by it's looks? How else would you judge it? You can't say a name does anything for you either. It's not what actually distinguishes you. (Although if your name was Vlad the Impaler, I must admit, I'd have a decent amount of respect from you just for the name. :beer
I do think names are somewhat helpful, but I think overall, they hurt us, as hobbyists. How can you not see that at least the origin of naming certain corals was to make money? A purple people eater, one of first zoos named, went for a lot of money. Then they came out with the red people eater, and hell, now every single palythoa is called a people eater, pretty much.
I'm all for names, and even lineage, as long as they are accurate and there is some way to track them. From the ones I know, I would say sweetd's colony is closest to eye of rah. However, if I were to have one image of eye of rah in my head, and ordered these from him, I may not be too happy when I get them. The fact is, there are many different morphs of just about any name. I know someone who found a wild colony of "purple hornets" and bought hundreds of polyps for next to nothing. Then when he was selling them to people for $50 a polyp (a steal at the time), people got really upset when they got them and they didn't look like the real thing. I bought a sunset monti on here from someone and they dropped it off for me. I asked for a picture and they sent me to some online site selling a tyree sunset. I asked if it was a tyree and was pretty much scolded by numerous people for caring about the lineage. In fact, I don't care about the lineage. I just wanted to know what the piece looked like. I'm not going to buy something because it has lineage, i'm going to buy it if I like it. However, if I'm going to pay a lineage price, I would at least like it to be there, cause I know some people do care. But anyways, as soon as I got the coral, assured time and time again that it was a sunset, upon first glance I could clearly see it was a browned out rainbow monti...
That's why I like going to LFSs instead of buying online. Even to LFSs besides the one I work at. Sure, I can order a pink milli and get it at a much cheaper price through the store I work at than at some other store, but if I like that particular one, why would I settle for something else?
This is part of the reason I have my signature. You wouldn't believe how many times I've seen someone selling whatever coral and when they post a picture of it, it's just brown. Whether that be because it just isn't too colorful or because their tank cant support the color is irrelevant. If I order something as a purple monti cap, I want it to be purple as all hell if there's no picture. The names are just a way people get around giving a picture.
Fishkid, a friend of mine, was selling a latz clown on here the other week and wanted something like 300-350 for it, which is expensive as hell, but not a bad price. When asked for a picture, he said he thinks they all look pretty much the same. That could be true to an extent. But you wouldn't believe how many clownfish I've seen in my life. Especially coming out of a stranger's tank, there are some ugly clownfish (once again, often due to husbandry). If I were to spend that much on something, I'd want to see a picture instead of just having a name. (not meaning to call you out, of course Matt. I know she must have been beautiful. I'm just saying I understand the person's view who wanted to see a picture
)Names, if general, do not take away from confusion. They can create more confusion that a picture would solve.
And no... I never said the coral was ugly... I just said you see more ridiculous names with some of the more common corals, because people try to make them seem nicer than they are. Please read my post for a third time.
Also, can I just say that purple hornets aren't all that great? Anyone else agree with me? Sure they're pretty cool, but not worth the price they were once fetching.
Sorry for the essay.
And extra sorry to sweet d. :spin2:
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icycoral
I glue animals to rocks
Yes I have to agree on one thing sorry to sweetd on the thread jack. And maybe vlad the impaler too but no I don't think the "real" purple hornets are over rated and if they were people wouldnt try selling nock offs like fake rolex's. I hear where your comming from on your incident with the sunset you got beat on that sux but it does happen. Thats why I feel name and lineage is important I like to know what I'm getting and where it came from. Also buying through a reputable source is important too. Although yes there are some cool looking corals that aren't the "designer" name with lineage, like a blue Millie vs a palmers blue Millie. yeah if it looks good go with it you might save a few bucks. But if you want the name just like "Ray Ban" get ready to pony up. People eaters do have a big rep but their name just makes it easier to make reference to them, naming another paly a "red people eater" doesn't guarantee it gonna be worth squat. the market price will be set by the consumer. All in all I think the only thing that hurts us are people trying to scam out stuff as impostors. And here you have d asking for help to ID a coral to find out if it's named and has any lineage and were going on like two old ladies in the grocery store.
