Zoanthid Palytoxin

socal86

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alright i have been reading more and more stories of this and find it very interesting since i have some of this coral and handle it all the time when i rearrange my DT and do water changes here is what i found from Wikipedia.com

Some zoanthids contain the highly toxic substance palytoxin. Palytoxin is one of the most toxic organic substances in the world, but there is an ongoing debate over the concentration of this toxin in these animals.[citation needed] However, even in small quantities, the toxin can be fatal should it be ingested or enter the blood stream. If delivered immediately, vasodilators injected into the ventricle of the heart can act as an antidote.[1]
In order for this toxin to be dangerous to humans, the average aquarist would need to ingest the zoanthid in sufficient quantities, or brush a recent cut over it. Average handling, propagation and aquarium maintenance is unlikely to pose any danger beyond a localized skin reaction.[citation needed] A 2010 study found toxic zoanthids in three Washington D.C. area aquarium stores.[7]
Palytoxin is a tumor promoter, and is being studied in relation to signaling pathways in skin cancer genesis.[8] Contrary to common belief, palytoxin can be absorbed through intact skin.[9] The danger of acute poisoning from venomous zoanthids is quite real. An aquarist was poisoned through skin injuries on fingers by a Parazoanthus species, but recovered after 3 days. His zoanthid was found to contain 2-3 milligram of palytoxin per gram.[10] For comparison, the intravenous LD50 dose of palytoxin for a grown man is less than 8 microgram. Thus each gram of the offending zoanthid contained enough venom to kill at least 125 grown men.
 
Also a good idea to wear eye protection when fragging so you don't get a squirt in the eye.
 
Wash you hands really good or/and wear gloves . I have gotten very sick from this before , It was my own fault but after making some paly frags , I didn't wash my hands very well and after I "touched" my nose , I was trembling with chills then hot flashes for several hours into the night. I could see how it could be fatal to some people after going through that.
 
I have more than a few areas of zooanthids spreading their boundries too far and encroaching on the sps corals. I scrap and pull them off with twezzers. The dark fluid ejected seemingly has no effect on the fish or other corals. Is this the case? I limit the removal to about 2 plus square inches and sometimes twice a day but again, not sure if this is harmful?
 
Wash you hands really good or/and wear gloves . I have gotten very sick from this before , It was my own fault but after making some paly frags , I didn't wash my hands very well and after I "touched" my nose , I was trembling with chills then hot flashes for several hours into the night. I could see how it could be fatal to some people after going through that.

I've had nearly the same symptoms twice from fragging pallys. It is miserable. It starts with a strange metalic taste in your mouth and gets worse from there. I was afraid I had killed myself the first time. The second time I took 3 benadryl and went to bed. It is a terrible feeling.
 
I've had nearly the same symptoms twice from fragging pallys. It is miserable. It starts with a strange metalic taste in your mouth and gets worse from there. I was afraid I had killed myself the first time. The second time I took 3 benadryl and went to bed. It is a terrible feeling.

Yip same thing +1
 
well advice i had was to wear protective gear gloves and eye protection and to take the coral out of the water to frag it to avoid it squirting any toxins in the tank. it wont hurt the coral to be out of the water for a small period of time since in low tides they are out for hours at a time. but if worried you could always get a bucket or bowel of some sort and do it in saltwater.
 

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