Zooplankton propagation refugium

dingodan87

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Does anyone have any experience or advice with different types of zooplankton. Id like to incorporate a large refugium above the tank, which would periodically overflow into the display tank via water pumped in from the sump on a timer. It could have a dsb, air stones for water movement/aeration, and some sort of scrub brushes or something to provide a home for the plankton. I'd like to have as thick and diverse a population as possible. The refugium will be fed phytoplankton ill be cultivating separately. Also ive read copepods eat rotifers is this true?
 
hey dingo, i keep rotis, artemia and copepods, all in two vases. two of the same poly cultures. i do this to keep it stable. i cycle them over a week or so, depending on my work schedule. i use open air line, two or three bubbles a second. i try to keep the water green, i also feed roti rich and a homemade paste of live bakers yeast that i thin out with decanted phyto. i use dunaliella and nannochloropsis. i keep the phyto on a windowsill. free light is free light.
i throw atemia cysts into the vase weekly,
the copepods feed off of the decaying cyst shells. they seem to eat the shells. they're harps, i'm not sure of the species. they get pretty thick at the bottom of the culture. my gobies love these copepods. they even pick at the rotis. i gut load the brine shrimp with kent marine chromaplex, which i suspect the copepods and the rotis eat as well.
i replenish the rotifers when it gets a little thin. i also culture them in half a dozen bottles in the same area... rotis have a tendency to crash if you skip a day. safety in numbers. all my rotifers are contaminated with copepods. the species i have are not predatory... i think.
i do all this on a hobbyist scale, in a wooden cabinet under a par 30 and a 20w 'marine glo'. my dt is only four gallons.
it's a twice a day chore that i enjoy.
one thing that you're gonna have to contend with is hydroids. i'm constantly dealing with them.
the dsb is a great idea. i have a pistol gobie pair, with a four inch sandbed that is chock fullo worms. great source of plankton.
i got pics if you're interested. don't wanna clog up your thread.
not many folk are into plankton culturing here. i'd like to see what you get up to.
 
Go nuts with the pics! You seem to know alot more about this than me or any others ive spoken to about it. What do you mean by the rotis crash? Ill need to familiarize myself with a few other species you mentioned. Ideally id like to keep as many as possible in one tank, maybe baffles could separate some species if necessary, though id imagine cross contamination would be imminent. (The phyto is obviously cultured seperately) im not a fan of daily maintenance though, was hoping to just have a plankton rich refugium i would just feed phyto every few days or so..
 
cheers dan...rotifers double their population in a day or so. given good food. without food for 24 hrs, they starve and the culture can crash. they're delicate, but easy to culture if you're into daily routines. a mature culture can be harvested daily. easily 50% copepod culture is more forgiving. and sea monkeys are sea monkeys. they'll live in most any dirty water. an exellent resource is the plankton culture manual by florida aqua farms.
i don't think you can keep them all in one tank like you're wanting to do....you could, but the amount you're thinking of would not be substantial enough to maintain more than a couple of fish.
definitely smart to add live phyto to your tank to encourage the microfauna. i think if you started with a phyto culture, you would start to see an increase in your local pod population. dead phyto (bottled stuff) doesn't seem to have the same affect.
i used to cultivate my nanno in freshwater, and use it with my automated top off to maintain the sg. this could be an idea for you.
the trouble with zooplankton is maintaining it all in the water column. rotifers have a tendency to group at the light, brine shrimp too. copepods are all over the place. getting them all to group at the overflow with lights and timers depletes the population.
i've tried it with peristaltic pumps. didn't work that great.
i like your idea, and have tried it in other ways, i think it really comes down to available time and resources.


here's a pic of my setup.
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the poly culture is the two vases on the left, next to my 2.6 gallon vase. the rotifer cultures are on the shelf above. i do daily water changes on the dt above, into the 2.6, and into the poly cultures. i top off with live phyto.

here's an old picture that might put some ideas in your head.
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here i kept rotis and phyto on the same shelf. 13 w cfls.

harpeticoid copepods, rotifers and dunaliella
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i hope i helped out with your questions.
 
DSB is fine. I like my mud filter and macro refugium. The miracle mud is high in iron which will be depleted by bacteria, micro fauna and fana.
Patrick
 
I suppose i could rig somethin up to auto dose live phyto.. I dont mind maintenance i just dont want to set myself up for disaster if i miss a day or two. Ill still be feeding my fish and corals with other foods, but id like to give them as much live food as possible. Especially since id like to keep some sponges feather worms and nps. Thanks for the info
 
How long can the cultures be left alone ? I am at gone for two or three days sometimes and dont want to try if they will crash easily.
 
So I'm comin back to this thread with another question now that all these plans are finally underway. In terms of plankton production and possibly trace elements for the filter feeders I plan to keep; what do u guys think for substrate? Carib sea sugar fine? Mineral mud?
 
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