1 Year Anniversary!! 180g ClownFish Harem

[Zagzoo71]

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53 Clownfish (Lost 2.. 1 at acclimation and 1 jumper 1 month ago)

40+ Bta's : Quad Color, Rose, Rainbow, Ultra Green and Ultra Watermelon. Had issue with some wild vs demositic BTA's.

2x a day auto feeding

14" x 8" alge scrubber + 150 Int Reef octupos skimmer

3 black box LED's

 

[WatDatThing]

Awesome!

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[Uncle99]

Now that's busy!
Very very nice!
Must be Chaos at feeding time....

 

[humphreyhh]

Beautiful! Do they fight?


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[Zagzoo71]

Beautiful! Do they fight?


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Hardly any fighting.. they are spread out enough and all the bta's. Alot of shaking going on and it's over.

 

[Tanthaitrung]

Very nice!

Could you post your algae turf scrubber?

 

[BonsaiNut]

Beautiful! Do they fight?

Just saying that there are some pretty deformed / weak fish in this lot. I don't know where you got them or who sold them to you, but I am seeing a lot of fish I personally would have culled. Probably one of the reasons why there isn't a lot of fighting is some appear to be having trouble just swimming.

I am not trying to make you feel bad... I just want to make sure people understand the difference between a tank of weak captive-raised fish, and wild caught adults. More often than not people see threads like this, go out to the store to try to replicate it with some wild-caught fish, and... let the fireworks begin!

 

[BonsaiNut]

Just saying that there are some pretty deformed / weak fish in this lot. I don't know where you got them or who sold them to you, but I am seeing a lot of fish I personally would have culled. Probably one of the reasons why there isn't a lot of fighting is some appear to be having trouble just swimming.

I am not trying to make you feel bad... I just want to make sure people understand the difference between a tank of weak captive-raised juvenile fish, and wild caught adults. More often than not people see threads like this, go out to the store to try to replicate it with some wild-caught fish, and... let the fireworks begin!

 

[Zagzoo71]

All the clowns were captive bred, all groups were from the same clutch as well (from a rep breeder). So yes they all do swim fine.. watch my other youtube channel for other videos.. thanks for your concern.

 

[BonsaiNut]

So yes they all do swim fine.. watch my other youtube channel for other videos.. thanks for your concern.

What does being from the same clutch have to do with whether or not they are deformed? Bulldog noses, broken jaws, concave gill covers, asymmetrical fins, humped backs - all examples of fish that should have been culled.

Survival of clownfish in the wild is less than 1 in 1,000 to the point that they metamorphose and settle into an anemone. Then they have to wait for the chance to move up the pecking order until maybe they get a chance to spawn and pass on their genetic material. Only the best - the strongest and the healthiest - make it. That is why wild caught fish are big and healthy - because if they had a weakness they would have been dead long ago.

A good fish breeder is someone who breeds to a wild holotype - i.e. they act as Mother Nature and cull fish that show noticeable abnormalities or weaknesses. However there are many bad breeders out there that feel any fish that floats is a good fish and worth money. They are the puppy mills of the aquarium business. No culling = bad fish. It is literally IMPOSSIBLE to breed good fish 100% of the time.

A sign of a GREAT breeder is someone who gets less than 10% culls. If you are a beginner, or if you are breeding siblings, it is not unusual to get 80% culls. A good breeder can tell at a glance whether or not you have good fish - it isn't hard.

 

[Planetmacro]

Sorry, but that is just about the most unnatural setup I've seen. All the clowns are deformed. Some grossly deformed. In nature you don't find 50 plus clownfish of any species living so densely pact. A nice display is a natural looking mature pair and possibly one or two juveniles in the correct anemone for the species. Some of us are true aquarist and others have no clue.

 

[Planetmacro]

And a "harem" is one male with many females, like centropyge species. Harem does not apply to Amphiprion of Premnas.

 

[dochoot]

Thanks for sharing!