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joejoe1055
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i'm a little worried that you have way too much for the tank being so young
i know i k now, but i have done my research. Check it out, the condylactus wasn't in a good enough environment at the petshop. I have been checking my parameters very frequently and every day. I have live rock and live sand. I know how to tell if a fish is distressed and none of the damsels looked distressed. I also know when an anenome is distressed, and he look alot better in my tank. I kick started my biological process some really good bacteria, and will do freequent R/O water changes. I have made sure to get very hardy things.
The crab is really hardy, the damsels are hardy, and believe it or not the firefish and the condy are two hardy creatures too. I will wait atleast a few months before I even think about adding a flame angel. I want one badly.
Toddrtrex
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You really need to slow down, if you had actually done your research you would have learned that your tank is nowhere near ready for all those fish, let alone an anemone.
What happened to the other 3 green chromis you had 10 days ago?
Why did you have ammonia readings of 1-3 ppm 10 days ago?
What lights are you running?
What happened to the other 3 green chromis you had 10 days ago?
Why did you have ammonia readings of 1-3 ppm 10 days ago?
What lights are you running?
rcoughtrey
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I think not. Looks like you read what you needed to know then rushed it
wantacookie
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Wow. Please take todd's advice and slow down, man.
The other green chromis died because they were not eating since day 2 when I purchased them to cycle the tank. I know they were sick. The ones that are alive are from a non-commercial petshop, and they are healthy and lively and eating right away.
The ammonia readings were so small, and most likely due to the chromis dieng. I think after a while of not eating, they grew weak, and my sally crab attacked them because when I saw them they were spinning around rapidly like they were about to die.
Im running t5 lights with 1 ocean sun light bulb and one coral light bulb. The light seems to be penetrating the tank very well.
I am keeping an eye on my firefish, and just did a 1/8th water change last night. (5 gallons) of reverse osmosis. I am going to test again, but I have not seen anything odd in the past few days. I don't plan on adding my prize fish or corals or my prize anenome until later down the road.
I just wanted to get a good hardy crew set up that will last me until my tank has aged a bit, that way I will know that my parameters are good enough for the more sensitive corals, flame angel, and long tentacled anenome.
The firefish seem to be doing good. I just turned on my tank light so they arestill in hiding, waiting for them to come out of the rock work. I think it's amazing how saltwater creatures hide in rock work at night, I have never witnessed this behaviour with freshwater fish. It's almost as if they all go to bed, the morning they all wake up like people. haha.
When I first got the anenome he was looking like he was gonna die soon in the petshop. Slightly brown and shrivled on one side. He was only 6.99 which is why I bought him. Now today he is very white with purple tips, I fed him a guppy, and his tentacles are very filled now. He looks like he is loving the two powerheads giving him the current he needs unlike the distilled petshop water.
shifty51008
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ok 1st off you put knowing sick fish in your tank? that was 1 bad idea, if they had a deseise then most likely that will go to the other fish and soon will all die.
what type of light fixture do you have? brand wise? I know T5's but just because it looks like the light is penetrating the water good don't mean that it really is.
I would really slow down alot and do alot more reading.
going through your other posts you were saying how 40% said to use a live fish to cycle your tank well actually peeing in your tank would have been a much better choice or any of the other options you stated. you basically put those fish on their death bed.
what type of light fixture do you have? brand wise? I know T5's but just because it looks like the light is penetrating the water good don't mean that it really is.
I would really slow down alot and do alot more reading.
going through your other posts you were saying how 40% said to use a live fish to cycle your tank well actually peeing in your tank would have been a much better choice or any of the other options you stated. you basically put those fish on their death bed.
Toddrtrex
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:lolspin:
In all seriousness, everybody is giving you the straight poop here. You'd do best to take pause, try to digest the info you've been given here, and regroup.
Oh, and don't let the sarchasm and finger wagging get you down. Some people just don't know how to give advice without doing that. Actually, I think they live for it. Just understand that the disdain they show for what you're doing comes from a good place.
Whatever you do, don't let them bait you into an argument. They are very experienced and thery do know exactly what they are talking about. You will really hurt your chances of getting any future support from this community if you swing back.
If you like the look of a reef so much and you just can't wait to get into it, there are always people you can hire to set one up and maintain it for you. They may even be willing to show you the ropes along the way.
Best of luck.
from OPs other thread
Hmmmm, can one person, single-handedly bring down the Petco chain :blown:...I'm selling my stock tomorrow!
Hmmmm, can one person, single-handedly bring down the Petco chain :blown:...I'm selling my stock tomorrow!
11:11, seriously, at this point, and for 2 more weeks---possibly 6---there should not have been any fish in the tank, not even a snail. If you are from Petco, which I don't think operates tanks with live rock, you have some reading to do in modern reefkeeping, starting with the sticky above about HOW TO SET UP A TANK.
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...and I would keep your location under your hat. If somebody finds your location and complains (which they have every right to) you may find yourself out of a job in short order.
This is the super forum of uber marine aquatic specialists, and based on some of your posts that have been brought to light, you are so clearly not one of them. I'm a beginner, and I can see that.
For Petco to be putting folks like yourself into positions of expertise like that ought to be a crime. That's not your fault, it's Petco's. It's cool that you are getting first hand exposure to learn the trade/hobby, but really, they aren't doing you any favors.
I would urge you to cease and desist from giving any advice to customers on salt water aquaria. Be upfront with them about your beginner status, and point them to do their own research before making any purchases...especially livestock. Give them bad/incorrect advice, and it will return to haunt you.
Petco's only do FO as far as marine goes. All of their holding tanks are linked together, so a disease that's in one tank, is in all the tanks. Since they don't quarantine, you probably treat with copper as a profalactic, right? There's a Pet Extreme where I live that is set up the same way, yet every Wednesday, they still stock their SW tanks with a new shipment of snails, crabs, dusters and anemones, and they always look terrible. The only chance they have is if they get sold immediately. The copper and nitrates in these types of systems is a death sentence for them. As a beginner, I looked up to their staff and assumed I was getting good advice.
How long have you worked there? What is your SW fish loss rate there... Honestly? I've been into more than my fair share of these places, and most of the time, at least half of their livestock are visibly ill...not to mention the ones that are already belly up. The holding tanks are waaaay too small for the specimens they sell. Some are run better than others, but the basic recipe is seriously flawed from the git-go.
This is the super forum of uber marine aquatic specialists, and based on some of your posts that have been brought to light, you are so clearly not one of them. I'm a beginner, and I can see that.
For Petco to be putting folks like yourself into positions of expertise like that ought to be a crime. That's not your fault, it's Petco's. It's cool that you are getting first hand exposure to learn the trade/hobby, but really, they aren't doing you any favors.
I would urge you to cease and desist from giving any advice to customers on salt water aquaria. Be upfront with them about your beginner status, and point them to do their own research before making any purchases...especially livestock. Give them bad/incorrect advice, and it will return to haunt you.
Petco's only do FO as far as marine goes. All of their holding tanks are linked together, so a disease that's in one tank, is in all the tanks. Since they don't quarantine, you probably treat with copper as a profalactic, right? There's a Pet Extreme where I live that is set up the same way, yet every Wednesday, they still stock their SW tanks with a new shipment of snails, crabs, dusters and anemones, and they always look terrible. The only chance they have is if they get sold immediately. The copper and nitrates in these types of systems is a death sentence for them. As a beginner, I looked up to their staff and assumed I was getting good advice.
How long have you worked there? What is your SW fish loss rate there... Honestly? I've been into more than my fair share of these places, and most of the time, at least half of their livestock are visibly ill...not to mention the ones that are already belly up. The holding tanks are waaaay too small for the specimens they sell. Some are run better than others, but the basic recipe is seriously flawed from the git-go.
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