you should've seen my copperbanded butterflyfish i found at a petco on the main line. was COATED with ICH but picking frozen brine shrimp! i said i'd take it if they discount it, said they were going to treat it in a tank in the back room, come back a week later. as if i'd trust them i came back two day's latter to find it were it was, the manager said they were treating it with garlic - looked at him with a shocked followed by a psycho killer face! the jerks only took $6 off the $29 list, would've taken it regardless. my neighbor who had salts since slate bottomed stainless steel framed tanks looked at it and said that's a dead fish. two weeks of straight copper followed by another two with Cu/Formalin! that copperband bff has been with me for five years now. :: )))