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A tank manufacturer just emailed me this.
Vince,
A acrylic tank would craze, not pop, if stand was off. It was NOT your falt. We would give you a 240 month warrantee.
If you call pull the sheets apart, then there are issues with the mfg. Who was the mfg. again???
There was no crazing at all before the seams popped.
Vince,
A acrylic tank would craze, not pop, if stand was off. It was NOT your falt. We would give you a 240 month warrantee.
If you call pull the sheets apart, then there are issues with the mfg. Who was the mfg. again???
There was no crazing at all before the seams popped.
Crazing is a network of fine cracks on the surface of a material, for example in a glaze layer. Crazing is a phenomenon that frequently precedes fracture in some glassy thermoplastic polymers. Crazing occurs in regions of high hydrostatic tension, or in regions of very localized yielding, which leads to the formation of interpenetrating microvoids and small fibrils.
villious
Member
When I've seen glued acrylic break, it usually breaks into jagged pieces. I don't think I've seen it really break at a well glued joint. Not where the joint just snaps apart. Kinda like gluing wood with wood glue. The joint never breaks. It's always the wood around the joint that gives.
john rochon
New member
yes when I've try to or accidently. broke acrylic brackets, it never ever broke at the weldon joint, it broke somewere else.
NaH2Ofreak
Premium Member
I think that welodon actually creates a joint that is STRONGER than the original acrylic right?
Dennis
Dennis
Patrick12
Crypt Assassin
Sean built me a tank and I am very happy with it.
I have known Sean for years and I am certain he would have worked with you and given you a better result if you had not made posts here about the problem, before he even had a chance to address it. Still not sure why anyone would do that unless you knew you shared some blame and wanted to get others to make you feel good. Sean is a solid guy and does great work. I have seen many of his creations. I will not pretend to know all the details....nor assume the ones posted here are all accurate. But, I do know that having a fully stocked tank that large, with nearly a fourth of it floating in midair, is a recipe to get exactly what happened. ........whether weldon or elmer's glue was used.
Wish things had gone differently for you both.
I have known Sean for years and I am certain he would have worked with you and given you a better result if you had not made posts here about the problem, before he even had a chance to address it. Still not sure why anyone would do that unless you knew you shared some blame and wanted to get others to make you feel good. Sean is a solid guy and does great work. I have seen many of his creations. I will not pretend to know all the details....nor assume the ones posted here are all accurate. But, I do know that having a fully stocked tank that large, with nearly a fourth of it floating in midair, is a recipe to get exactly what happened. ........whether weldon or elmer's glue was used.
Wish things had gone differently for you both.
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Justin1989
New member
You see, there lies the issue. This is no longer something he has much choice over. This is a flaw in his work. He may have worked with him if he didn't come here posting your right. I highly doubt it though. From the sounds of it, he was positive it was that 20" gap; which as you can see now is NOT the issue. From what others have said, he did a poor job on this tank build. So whether he OFFERS to replace the tank, or it ordered by a court to replace the tank or refund it, I have no doubt vince in the end will be happy.
Edit: It was not floating in mid-air. Correct me if I'm wrong, however I do believe there was foam under the tank. Granted it does not fix all the issues of gaps, it will surely help. one more thing, it isnt a 1/4 of the tank that was a gap. you see, in this case you would use the entire perimeter of the tank, not just the length.
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phurst
Richmond Reefer
I'm honestly glad you're happy with your tank. For the most part it certainly does seem like Sean does good work, but in this case, I believe the tank was flawed. It's not like a quarter of the tank was unsupported. Sean was able to work the tip of a flat head screwdriver under one portion of the tank in the back, after it was empty. Sitting on 1/2" foam, I feel sure he could have forced the screwdriver in just about anywhere. As far as I am able to tell, the seams simply didn't bond properly. Whether it was negligence or simply bad luck, I can't say. It is my belief that the construction is the reason the tank failed. Obviously Sean disagrees, and that's his prerogative. Unfortunately, it looks like the courts will have the final say.
The only information posted before Sean saw the tank was simply that the seam had burst. Nobody speculated about the cause until later. As you can see, this thread was started to show off the tank, and was updated after the failure with the information. If you look at the other thread in our local forum (linked elsewhere in this thread), you'll see it was a call for help to our local club.
I definitely wish things had gone differently as well.
The only information posted before Sean saw the tank was simply that the seam had burst. Nobody speculated about the cause until later. As you can see, this thread was started to show off the tank, and was updated after the failure with the information. If you look at the other thread in our local forum (linked elsewhere in this thread), you'll see it was a call for help to our local club.
I definitely wish things had gone differently as well.
I have seen 3 other tanks Sp made. A 325, a 210 and a frag tank with a surge device. Did something go wrong on this one? Maybe. In his line of work you are going to have all put up on a sight somewhere. I would not be so irritated by the owner of the tank posting what happened but by the flaming of the posters who form a conclusion based on what "he" said or "they" said. The piling on by these is what has been knocking this sight back down. As of now none of us really know what happened. I know I'm going to get slapped by someone for posting this and not standing behind someone pointing my finger saying, yea, yea. He did it. So flame on.
john rochon
New member
you see , this bugs me, someone posts an issue and asks advice, so we give advice and our opinion. how is that flaming??
because we think from the evidence giving that the tank is flawed then why can't we state that? why is that flaming?? we can't SEE the tank, and this is in fact the internet so all we can really do is surmise and type. we also have facts posted by seans own typing and I think he's wrong. having built a few tanks myself I can post with some credentials. I run a 500g right now that I built.
A sturdy stand realtivly level with 1/2'' foam should handle any tank giving the tank is built correctly. I feel here that maybe SEAN did not personaly build the tank [guessing] but an employee did.
maybe sean can't handle the cost of a lost tank? sounds like the owner of the tank is being more than reasonable in his replys.
and SEAROBIN,, with 3 posts you don;'t hold much water here,
maybe seans is asking customers to register here and comment which isn't right.
because we think from the evidence giving that the tank is flawed then why can't we state that? why is that flaming?? we can't SEE the tank, and this is in fact the internet so all we can really do is surmise and type. we also have facts posted by seans own typing and I think he's wrong. having built a few tanks myself I can post with some credentials. I run a 500g right now that I built.
A sturdy stand realtivly level with 1/2'' foam should handle any tank giving the tank is built correctly. I feel here that maybe SEAN did not personaly build the tank [guessing] but an employee did.
maybe sean can't handle the cost of a lost tank? sounds like the owner of the tank is being more than reasonable in his replys.
and SEAROBIN,, with 3 posts you don;'t hold much water here,
maybe seans is asking customers to register here and comment which isn't right.
Patrick12
Crypt Assassin
I am friends with the folks at Reef Chief, but I did not work there. I am a nurse anesthetist and provide anesthesia for folks......have to have a job like that is seems sometimes to support this hobby......anyway, have we met before? I know I have never been to Minnesota, so you must have lived in HR.
