~450G Display (~1000G system) documentary starting
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kwl1763
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Honestly not a lot to report. No new fish (getting some this week) Traded for a couple frags but essential no infrastructure work! I did get a new camera so expect a major pick update soon! Today however I did treat for red bugs (even though I treat everything in qt something slipped through)
OK here we go!
First a few things.
My tank is 450 G and I have another almost 200 in sumps. As Eric B. did more research on them (being direct brooders and not hanging out ,always erratically swimming until they find an acro) I decide to take the sumps offline and not treat the sump water. This allowed 2 things: 1) Without the sumps the water volume minus rock, etc in the tank was somewhere around 1 full tablet dose of 380G! 2) It allowed me to drain the sumps, clean them out good and do an almost 200G water change right after the treatment by just starting the return pump up.
Note that I have tons of in tank circulation so losing the relatively small amount was no big deal but it may be for others.
I have 6 cleaner shrimp in there and tons of acro crabs. I fully expected to lose them all but I only lost 2 cleaners. The acro crabs went pretty quick though. It looked like a graveyard on the bottom
If your going to treat just be prepared to lose all your crustations you don't get out. You may not but don't get your hopes up!
Ok on the pics I took roughly one per hour and some are good and some are bad! I spent literally 30 seconds each processing them and my goal was to get the bugs to stand out. Not properly represent the coral or have awesome pics, etc so if some are different colors don't worry about it I was trying to show thw bugs the most obvious way.
First the essenials. A container to mix, The Interceptor tab, a spoon to crush it and a piece of paper to crush it on. Most people are probably a little more proper with a morter, etc but a spoon works!
I'm going to use 2 frags as we go in case the leave one quicker. Here is the first is the one posted above and here is another shot pre treatment.
After 1 hour:
Now the first frag has probably the most dense infestation I've ever seen! Also I treated my last tank twice and never saw this but compare the polyp extension of the first frag throughout these. Some people say that once the bugs start dying the really burrough in and irritate the coral. I have to say with this experience that seems very possible to me as the polyps totally withdrew within an hour.
Second hour:
Not to much change here. I saw less movement but numbers still high. Acro crabs starting kicking it.
OK here we go!
First a few things.
My tank is 450 G and I have another almost 200 in sumps. As Eric B. did more research on them (being direct brooders and not hanging out ,always erratically swimming until they find an acro) I decide to take the sumps offline and not treat the sump water. This allowed 2 things: 1) Without the sumps the water volume minus rock, etc in the tank was somewhere around 1 full tablet dose of 380G! 2) It allowed me to drain the sumps, clean them out good and do an almost 200G water change right after the treatment by just starting the return pump up.
Note that I have tons of in tank circulation so losing the relatively small amount was no big deal but it may be for others.
I have 6 cleaner shrimp in there and tons of acro crabs. I fully expected to lose them all but I only lost 2 cleaners. The acro crabs went pretty quick though. It looked like a graveyard on the bottom
If your going to treat just be prepared to lose all your crustations you don't get out. You may not but don't get your hopes up!Ok on the pics I took roughly one per hour and some are good and some are bad! I spent literally 30 seconds each processing them and my goal was to get the bugs to stand out. Not properly represent the coral or have awesome pics, etc so if some are different colors don't worry about it I was trying to show thw bugs the most obvious way.
First the essenials. A container to mix, The Interceptor tab, a spoon to crush it and a piece of paper to crush it on. Most people are probably a little more proper with a morter, etc but a spoon works!
I'm going to use 2 frags as we go in case the leave one quicker. Here is the first is the one posted above and here is another shot pre treatment.
After 1 hour:
Now the first frag has probably the most dense infestation I've ever seen! Also I treated my last tank twice and never saw this but compare the polyp extension of the first frag throughout these. Some people say that once the bugs start dying the really burrough in and irritate the coral. I have to say with this experience that seems very possible to me as the polyps totally withdrew within an hour.
Second hour:
Not to much change here. I saw less movement but numbers still high. Acro crabs starting kicking it.
kwl1763
Premium Member
Hour 3:
Significantly less bugs. The ones there appear dead. Coral polyps still totally retracted.
Hour 4:
I count 5 bugs total in pics, no movement, polyps back out!!!
Hour 5:
No bugs!!!
Nothing changed after that. After 8 hours I turned the sumps back on (diluting by basically 50%) and starting running 3 phosban reactors full of carbon.
Everything looks great today. I still see lots of pods but no bugs!
I'm only going to treat once since we know they are direct brooders.
And I said earlier this was the first time in this tank but my third total and I would encourage anyone who has them to treat. It's not bad, your tank isn't oing to crash. Your pods won't disappear (granted there is surely some dieoff) but the tank recovers nicely and your acros will love you for it!
Significantly less bugs. The ones there appear dead. Coral polyps still totally retracted.
Hour 4:
I count 5 bugs total in pics, no movement, polyps back out!!!
Hour 5:
No bugs!!!
Nothing changed after that. After 8 hours I turned the sumps back on (diluting by basically 50%) and starting running 3 phosban reactors full of carbon.
Everything looks great today. I still see lots of pods but no bugs!
I'm only going to treat once since we know they are direct brooders.
And I said earlier this was the first time in this tank but my third total and I would encourage anyone who has them to treat. It's not bad, your tank isn't oing to crash. Your pods won't disappear (granted there is surely some dieoff) but the tank recovers nicely and your acros will love you for it!
golfschosen1
Premium Member
Keith, what kind of camera did you end up getting?
Steve
Steve
kwl1763
Premium Member
Steve I got Canon XTi. I really like it. This weekend I plan to spend several hours with it and the tank so I definitely have an update after that. It's been two months since a real update which is just unacceptable!
I actually plan to hook the chiller up weekend after next also. I've had it sitting for almost a year!
I actually plan to hook the chiller up weekend after next also. I've had it sitting for almost a year!
kwl1763
Premium Member
So I'm really beginning to fall in love with the lens. Today I decide to shoot exclusively with it.
The camera is a Canon 400 (Rebel XTi) and this lens is the 100mm/f2.8 Macro.
First thing I did was setup about 10 feet from the tank and wanted to try the photomerge command. At this distance it took 4 shots to get my 10 ft long tank but photoshop did a great job stiching them together.
The I took a few "normal" macros:
Next we headed to the botanical gardens where I was very hesitant to take a no zoom no IS lens. All I can say is wow. I took over 100 pics and at least 75% were great. Not good but great. Here is just a couple.
Anybody contemplating a macro I would highly recommend. As always critique and comments of the pics welcome!
I'll update later in the week with more tank info.
The camera is a Canon 400 (Rebel XTi) and this lens is the 100mm/f2.8 Macro.
First thing I did was setup about 10 feet from the tank and wanted to try the photomerge command. At this distance it took 4 shots to get my 10 ft long tank but photoshop did a great job stiching them together.
The I took a few "normal" macros:
Next we headed to the botanical gardens where I was very hesitant to take a no zoom no IS lens. All I can say is wow. I took over 100 pics and at least 75% were great. Not good but great. Here is just a couple.
Anybody contemplating a macro I would highly recommend. As always critique and comments of the pics welcome!
I'll update later in the week with more tank info.
golfschosen1
Premium Member
Keith congrats on the camera I think you made a great choice on camera and lens I like the pics a lot
Steve
Steve
pimp2daizzo
Active member
where did u get your sumps from?
orchidsnfish
New member
Keith:
Do you still have the RBTA in there? Where did he end up in the tank? Just curious as to how he tolerates the extremely high flow. I'm curious as to how my nems will like the 265 since they always seem to find a moderate flow area and don't appreciate the Tunzes at all.
Thanks
Angela
Do you still have the RBTA in there? Where did he end up in the tank? Just curious as to how he tolerates the extremely high flow. I'm curious as to how my nems will like the 265 since they always seem to find a moderate flow area and don't appreciate the Tunzes at all.
Thanks
Angela
drummereef
Team RC
Keith - How are you running the Aquacontroller with the DJ power centers? Are you using X10?
Amazing setup btw. :thumbsup:
Amazing setup btw. :thumbsup:
kwl1763
Premium Member
Ya the stuff plugs (actually all the extension cords connected to the stuff!) into the X10's/ power panel and then the pwer panel is wired to the DJs. The DJs then plug into the GFCI outlets.
Ya Ryan this camera is the bomb!!
I'm fairly happy with things now. I'll be adding choice frags but no plans to do any more full box orders or anything. After about 3-4 months of very slow growth stuff is really doing nicely again. Some of which I'm sure is due to the red bug irradication! Next is to get the chiller going and also my actinics quit working Weds for some reason so I have to figure that out over the weekend.
Ya Ryan this camera is the bomb!!
I'm fairly happy with things now. I'll be adding choice frags but no plans to do any more full box orders or anything. After about 3-4 months of very slow growth stuff is really doing nicely again. Some of which I'm sure is due to the red bug irradication! Next is to get the chiller going and also my actinics quit working Weds for some reason so I have to figure that out over the weekend.
reeftankjunkie
New member
Wow. Just curious, when the lights come on, can you hear angels singing in the background
cbui2
Premium Member
wow Keith nice setup, but took me awhile to read the entire thread and now finally I get to submit a reply, lol..everything looks in good order but the only bad thing was to hear about the damaged tank which was taking care asap by AO. next was the disaster on nano, but all work out fine for you. seen you had some detour but going well for you now and hopefully knock on wood my build is going fine with minor adjustments...keep those pics coming and the camera is defiantly cool..
