5 year old Greenhouse Update

Hi Dendro,
I was just looking on your website and everything looks great, I happened to notice in the picture of your three 300gallon stock tanks, there each elevated one higher than the other. Is there a reason you did this? Do you pump water to the highest tank and let gravity help transport the water back down and through the filtration?
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Yes it is a cascading system. All of the tanks flow down to a 150-gallon sump, and from there it gets pumped back into the different tanks.
 
I made a "walkthrough" video of the greenhouse to give a better idea of where things are:

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WOW, thank you for that. (i always like the behind the sceans looks better then the normal "look at my tank" pictures)

Do you prefer any One system design better then the other? say, the cascade works better then the others or the new SPS system will be the better of all once done, or do you like the functions of each about the same?
thanks
 
Than, very cool to see.

Quick question about your system, I've read Calfo's thoughts about using DI only water because of the waste, economically and ecologically, what do you think?
 
Thanks guys, I'm glad you liked it. It's quite a lot of fun making these movies, and I hope to get a lot better at it in the future.

@dahenley - I don't think I really favor one system over the other. They all have their perks I guess. The newest system has me a bit excited though. It is completely different than the others and has a lot of potential. Even though it will be the smallest system, we may be putting the most capital into it. Once it starts coming together I'm certain it will be the subject of its own update.

@will46r - It depends on what your water is to start with I think. Our TDS is 900 coming from a well, so DI will run out pretty quickly considering we probably use 200-300 gal. a week.

The other thing to consider is "waste" water from a RO system doesn't necessarily have to be "wasted." There are plenty of things around the greenhouse that could use a healthy rinse, so when the RO system is running, someone is usually making use of the discharge line rather than the faucet. Our RO system is enormous so there is a good amount of water coming out of it to use for other purposes.
 
Wow! Very nice. I have always though of a half vegetable / half coral prop greenhouse. How does your plants do with all of the saltwater? Sorry if this was a previous question, thanks!
 
Wow! Very nice. I have always though of a half vegetable / half coral prop greenhouse. How does your plants do with all of the saltwater? Sorry if this was a previous question, thanks!

I can help with that one. Most of the plants are gone (they might all be gone by now). They weren't doing very well, and they thought it might have been from some of the salt in the moisture in the air.
 
Thanks for the response Wolverine. That was the same thoughts that I was having and was not sure if it were possible or not.
 
In a week I will be going to pick up the final two tanks for the SPS system. They could have been built sooner, but this was the soonest we could pick them up. I hope to have them plumbed soon after that and i'll be sure to take plenty of pictures.

As for the orchids, as Wolverine said, have had better days. They actually look pretty good now, but latervin the summer it gets pretty dry for them, even being around all that water. The saltiness of the air doesnt help either.
 
Do you mind sharing some of the equipment you use??
i dont want you to give up any secrets and such, but im just super curious and love the equipment size of everything more so then the FTS everyone asks for...

I see you have a RK2, but it looks like you also run a custom skimmer that looks like a geo?

your calcium reactors are covered in black (im assuming you also do it for the sun/algae growth)

I would love to see some pictures like that??
i know this is a lot of demands, but it sure is interesting....


You can also give some captions about the equipment.. Do you like the smaller multi pump skimmer over the large energy hog RK2? or like them both but differently?

thanks!!!
(ps, i love the utube videos!!!)
 
@dahenley - When it comes to equipment, there are no real secrets to be told. We run skimmers, pumps, lights (for us, not the corals), and Ca reactors. I am an early adopter of a lot of equipment, so there were a lot of purchases "to see what it was like." That is why in our systems you see three or four different types of skimmer.

So first talking about those skimmers, I've come up with a couple of preferences. So far, I've used the RK2, Lifereef VS3-60, ReefOctopus 5000sss and 6000sss, Custom GEO, Bubble King Supermarin 250, and Orca 250. The first is I am not a big fan of external skimmers. The RK2, Orca 250 and Lifereef skimmer were external. If for some reason there is a leak or overflow, there will be a considerable mess to clean up. If this happened with an internal skimmer, it just goes back into the sump. Also, the RK2 and Orca 250 used an external pump with seals and those seals are guaranteed to leak after a while. If I had to do it all over, I would probably go with large internal skimmers.

The second observation I've made is acrylic bodies and greenhouses don't mix. Acrylic is pretty and all, but it will grow heaps of algae in direct sun. The GEO and RK2 have solid colored bodies, and pretty much stay clean even after years of use. This is also why I cover the calcium reactors. They would clog with algae growth if left uncovered, and that includes the bubble counter.

Lastly, I appreciate skimmers that can be taken apart easily and soaked in vinegar. Some of the space-saver designs are great if you have limited space in a sump, but in a greenhouse setup where space is more abundant, you want easy access to all the individual components for maintenance.

As for multi-pump vs. single pump, I am all about single pump. I personally would not buy a skimmer that required more than 2 pumps (1 feed, 1 recirculating) if I could avoid it. Reef systems have a tendency to turn into snake pits of wires and I try like heck to avoid it. When I first started this greenhouse, each 1,000 gallon system literally ran off of THREE outlets each. Since then, lights and other gadgets were introduced, but I still try to cut down on the number of devices to not only save on electricity, but to save on clutter.

Other than that, I try different things in hopes of improving the system. Sometimes they work out, sometimes not so much, but at least I have first-hand knowledge going forward. Recently, the issue I ran into was a lot of newer products are manufactured and assembled in China and there is a major drop-off in quality. I realize that it's hard to avoid Chinese manufacture these days, but right now they are on par with Japanese and Taiwanese manufacturers in the early 80's (which is on the wrong side of horrible). Unfortunately, it is something I have to pay closer attention to now when I pick out new toys.
 
We picked up our new frag tanks and are in the process of plumbing the entire set together. I hope to have water in it within the week. There are a million connections and bulk heads so I'm sure we are going to have to track down tons of leaks. Shouldn't be too bad though.

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