Yea the specs state they need to be supported with angle iron or woodstock if filled past 24". I'm planning on running a 2"x4" along the center on 3 sides of each and the 4th side will be supported by the wall. The only thing im not sure of is on the water containers I might not support the front face as I want to be able to slide them out if need be. The things are super thick. I'm not worried about them blowing out, they are like 4 times thicker than a brute trash can. I think the support is to minimize the deflection if full.
600 gal display/900+ gal build thread in the Chicago 'burbs.
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J4Life
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I really don't think you would need to support them at all. I keep my 32 gallon brute full to the rim and that baby is not bulging at all. Those tubs way thicker than the brute. Actually they almost look like they are made from the same material corian counter tops are made from.
H20eng: great, thanks for the shots. That makes me feel better 
I'm playing with the plumbing layout in my head right now I'm concentrating on the overflows first. I'm looking for a bit of input if people want to chime in. Since I'll have an internal skimmer It simplifies the plumbing on the overflows a bit.
I have 2 overflows. Each is drilled for 3 bulkheads. I'm going to install 3 bulkheads in each and cap one in each of the overflows for later expansion. That leaves two bulkheads in each overflow. One in each overflow with be the main drains. 2" Pipe. The others in each overflow will be the emergency drains. Again 2" pipe. The emergency drains will have taller standpipes int eh overflows with no silencers.
Ok here is what I'm playing with. I need to run all these overflows along the tank, around the side of the tank, then over to a wall, take a left turn, another left turn and head over to the sump. So a 90 out of the overflow to go horizontal, a 90to get around the corner of the tank, a 90 to go along a wall, then another 90 to get to the sump, then another 90 to go vertical into the sump.
I really don't want to plump 4 2" pipes especially because I'm only planning on flowing 1400 ish gallons an hour through the sump at this point. I'll be using the dart and with the head pressure thats approximately what I'm seeing. The return I'll describe later.
So what I'm thinking of is ting the 2 overflows together and Ting the 2 emergency overflows together. I've never heard of a mass clogging the pipe once its past the overflow, and even if one does, there is still another 2" pipe that can handle the full load.
So basically 4 standpipes which feed into 2 drain pipes. This sound good?
I'm playing with the plumbing layout in my head right now I'm concentrating on the overflows first. I'm looking for a bit of input if people want to chime in. Since I'll have an internal skimmer It simplifies the plumbing on the overflows a bit.
I have 2 overflows. Each is drilled for 3 bulkheads. I'm going to install 3 bulkheads in each and cap one in each of the overflows for later expansion. That leaves two bulkheads in each overflow. One in each overflow with be the main drains. 2" Pipe. The others in each overflow will be the emergency drains. Again 2" pipe. The emergency drains will have taller standpipes int eh overflows with no silencers.
Ok here is what I'm playing with. I need to run all these overflows along the tank, around the side of the tank, then over to a wall, take a left turn, another left turn and head over to the sump. So a 90 out of the overflow to go horizontal, a 90to get around the corner of the tank, a 90 to go along a wall, then another 90 to get to the sump, then another 90 to go vertical into the sump.
I really don't want to plump 4 2" pipes especially because I'm only planning on flowing 1400 ish gallons an hour through the sump at this point. I'll be using the dart and with the head pressure thats approximately what I'm seeing. The return I'll describe later.
So what I'm thinking of is ting the 2 overflows together and Ting the 2 emergency overflows together. I've never heard of a mass clogging the pipe once its past the overflow, and even if one does, there is still another 2" pipe that can handle the full load.
So basically 4 standpipes which feed into 2 drain pipes. This sound good?
chrismunn
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my guess, and its only a guess, is that your idea of teeing the two standpipes into one drain would be fine. but, if you really feel uncomfortable about it, you could always tee the two 2" drains into one 3" pipe. i really doubt you'll need anythnig that big though. but even if you do tie both drians into the 2" line and it doesnt drain right, you can always cut out the 2"x2"x2" tee and add a new tee that is 2"x2"x3"
i like the idea of tieing the two drain lines together. its going to save you a mess of pipes. one pipe is cleaner than two but function before beuty
i like the idea of tieing the two drain lines together. its going to save you a mess of pipes. one pipe is cleaner than two but function before beuty
fewskillz
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I think you'll be fine with the 2". 3" would be overkill, but at least you have options.
Even easier than cutting out the 2x2x2s and swapping them for 3s would be taking one of your emergency drains and cutting it down and putting a silencer on it. That would still leave one emergency drain.
Awesome build, btw. Following along.
Even easier than cutting out the 2x2x2s and swapping them for 3s would be taking one of your emergency drains and cutting it down and putting a silencer on it. That would still leave one emergency drain.
Awesome build, btw. Following along.
NaClH20NMYVEIN
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I have been tagging along, looking great! You might have already mentioned this but what size and thickness steel did you use for the stand? Thanks
spear reef
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UPDATES!!!!!! :bounce3:
runningnreefing
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Great build thread. More updates and pics please.
I don't rightly know. The first stand was built and ATM was unhappy with the quality, or the build or something. They rebuilt it and it delayed shipping for a week or so. I know its heavy as hell, and when you knock on it you can tell its not solid, but its very thick.. It doesn't make any type of ringing sound.
As far as updates I was in Baltimore for the last week. I'll see if I can get some pictures of whats been done tonight. Its basically just tile work. The grout went in Friday so it looks really nasty still.
I purchased low VOC paint for that very reason. I'm actually putting zero VOC paint made by this company in the nursery...
www.bioshieldpaint.com
I only wish they made a similar product for our needs.
www.bioshieldpaint.com
I only wish they made a similar product for our needs.
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