750g circulation

[moriartiholmes]

I'm not sure what the tank will look like when it's done but I was thinking about energy/set up cost efficiency on a large tank and I thought of a series of surge buckets. You could make a stand for a bunch of 5-gallon buckets (as many as you can fit would be great. If you can find taller buckets even better. Then inside the buckets, you could use a simple siphon surge device or a Borneman flush devise for a little more money. The surge devices could be run on MJ 1200 which only push 300 GPH but through the surge device, the 300 GPH will be sent randomly and in strong spurts, which should benefit the livestock.
If you want stronger surges, you could use stronger feed pumps in larger containers, say a MAG 9.5 and a garbage can.
I would also add a closed loop or something more traditional for good circulation.
Like I said, I don't really know what the set up looks like, and I was thinking what would be more economical. In reality you'll probably just have to work with whatever you are donated

So who will be responsible for maintenance once the tank is complete? Just asking because that seems like it could cause a problem.

 

[dalbrecht]

I agree with moriarti holmes, except I would encourage you to look at the potential of using a roughneck or two.

Another option would be some type of piston wave maker, dump bucket or surge device. I would just recomomend a larger single surge device built off of a garbage can rather than multiple smaller devices. It would be simpler & more dramatic.

 

[Buk_A_neer]

The problem with large volume surge devices is that they play havoc with top off systems ... not impossible to deal with but certainly more of a challenge as well as potential water on the floor

 

[enamdjd]

I would add Tunze 6200's and hide in the rock work. They are efficient and quite powerful.

 

[Buk_A_neer]

The thing I have considered is the cost

Tunzee's are very expensive up front cost

three penductors ( $75.00 ) with a PanworldMD70R ( 1750 gph ) ( $250.00 ) would generate over 2600 gph ( $ 325.00 )

that would equal 5 Tunzee 6200's @ $450.00 each = $ 2250.00

now the Panworld uses 290 watts

the Tunzee's use 62W each or 310W total

If the stats on the Penductors are accurate for that pump ( pretty sure they are )

but even if you run only 2 Penductors/Panworld that is 17,500 gph ( $ 300.00 ) or 3 Tunzee 6200's 15849 gph ( $ 1350.00 )

Plumbing costs would vary for the closed loops depending on your DIY skills ( diamond bits 5 - 6 dollars on ebay, bulkheads 10 - 15 dollars each And tubing ball valves etc 20 to 30 dollars = 50 - 70 dollars or so )

The electricity savings in the latter example would be 104 watts in favour of the Tunzee's

I am posting this to get some constructive criticsm because it is the " Ben Franklin " that I have done in deciding to setup my tank that I am building

Question to all out there ... what is the lowest wattage High Pressure pump that you know of ? ... so far the Iwaki lookalike ( Panworld http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merc...&Product_Code=PW-200PS&Category_Code=Panworld ) are the best priced that I have found so far

 

[hdtvguy]

Look at running a Gen-X PCX-55HP pump driving 2 pens. I use this pump for one of my CL works great.

 

[Buk_A_neer]

Looking for at least as much output as the panworld though ( 1750 gph/39 ft head pressure ) ... only problem with the panworld is the 290W ... is there a pressure rated pump out there with as much flow/head pressure but less costly on the hydro ?

 

[hdtvguy]

I don't think you will find one coming under 290W. Trust me try a gen-x I have mine CL pump mounted just under the first floor in the basement. I get some crazy flow from the 2 pens on that pump. Uses very little power compared to that pump.