A Splash of Color

What do you think of the concept that Manganese competes with iron in chlorophyl production and can downregulate/poison chlorophyl?

I ask because my previous experience with Zeovit was that within a week or so all the algae was dying off. The Zeolites leach iron and manganese. My phosphate and Nitrate values pretty much stayed the same(Phosphate above 0.15, Nitrate ~2ppm) while this occurred.

The same thing is happening now, with AF using zeolites and adding additional Manganese via MicroE. My phosphate has been creeping up and last night was 0.12, nitrate is > 10, and my rocks are so clean of any speck of algae it's unreal. Cyano has died back to almost nothing as well. I should have something green growing in there with those nutrient numbers, but nothing...

Hi just wondering when you clean the glass on your tank is it green?
I am running AF and supplementing with seachem reef trace for the manganese as a trial sand seems cleaner two small patches of hair algae are still growing. But what is most striking is that the glass has a heavy green film on I less than twenty four hours.
Any thoughts why this would be ? I may increase the dose of manganese?
Thanks justin
 
sps pics and id

sps pics and id

Hi Biggles
Can you please id these sps for me , i have been given a couple of silly names and others no idea,if not sorry to ask , i have looked on forums but cant seem to get positive results.

Thanks bill

bought as aussie wild gone more yellow




bought as aussie wild was all yellow



bought as a frag said bubblegum milli




bought as a frag walt disney




bought as a frag and was all white but showing polyps
 
Curious...if you were using a calcium reactor as opposed to 2 part, do you feel there would be a need to dose such trace as Mn (a lot mentioned here about Mn dosing) Zn, Sr, or any others for that matter?
 
Curious...if you were using a calcium reactor as opposed to 2 part, do you feel there would be a need to dose such trace as Mn (a lot mentioned here about Mn dosing) Zn, Sr, or any others for that matter?

Some trace elements are not found in the calcium reactor media, so yes, you would. Manganese,for example, is oxidized by light and must be replenished.
 
Some trace elements are not found in the calcium reactor media, so yes, you would. Manganese,for example, is oxidized by light and must be replenished.


Just impractical to test for such trace metals especially at the rate they can be depleted not just by uptake in coral growth and the spectrum of all biologic activity but also in the medium we use such as GFO, GAC. I dose fuel, and other trace element parodic on top of frequent water change ...just outside of a lab at home or frequent triton etc these trace element uptake and replenishment can be a guessing game. Much talk these days on trace elements and probiotics both of which are likely a dose and observe routine.

Andrew your take on this? Tank looks great!! and thanks for sharing your sources. I've been in touch with them just need to wrangle enough folks in the us to go in with me to make cites etc worth the exchange.
-Greg


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Sorry I'm no expert on coral ids.
#4. The blue one looks like tenuis and # 3, as you've mentioned sure looks like millie..
And the last one I believe is A. Igottahaveitopora..
I really gotta have that one...
 
I had the pleasure of seeing this tank on the weekend and meeting Andrew. His tank and the colours are amazing!

Also his an ok bloke too :fun2:

I got treated to some candied frags and must express my gratitude. Thanks heaps mate and i'll have some goodies for you next time.

John
 
kinda supports my theory :]

also we have a biologist at southern cross uni who is doing research into cross contamination of clades in an aquarium, this research is leading us to believe that po4 and no3 are not as important as removal of the free swimming clades, while no3 and po4 lead to an overabundance of zoox [browning] this is because the sps are producing to much zoox and the clades are leaving the host and settling on others, causing cross contamination, we are looking at what happens when we remove the clades from the water column even in the presence of high inorganic no3 and po4, so far so good.... I probably should be posting this on the farm thread aswell

There are a lot of journal entries regarding clades and coral disease.

Symbiodinium clades A and D differentially predispose Acropora cytherea to disease and Vibrio spp. colonization
 
Cut all the dodgy looking tissue away and keep that bleached SSC on the bottom in low light and good flow - not strong flow Patrik.


Biggles, My six pieces of SSC seem to be recovering :lmao:

I see growing tissue and even some colors (compared to white brownish before. It seems that the pieces mostly in shadows have healed best.

I have dosed bacteria and aminos regularly.

I read, well looked at beautiful corals in your thread a couple of times again. :) :)
 
I had the pleasure of seeing this tank on the weekend and meeting Andrew. His tank and the colours are amazing!

Also his an ok bloke too :fun2:

I got treated to some candied frags and must express my gratitude. Thanks heaps mate and i'll have some goodies for you next time.

John

Thanks John, it was great having you, Dave and Ken over to check out the reef :)

I moved that purpley colony i said wasn't getting enough light at the end and replaced it with the fluoro aculeus piece off the far left big rock which is now no longer in the display btw..........

One would probably not use the word 'subtle' in relation to how i have laid out the final scape of the right island but i like it and that's all that matters ;)

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Ouch breaking eyes!!! I'm going to the hospital right now!!!!

Stef

PS : Could you identify this aussie acro? My best beauty... but my devil urchin decide to push it in a chalice just to see...

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Ouch breaking eyes!!! I'm going to the hospital right now!!!!

Stef

PS : Could you identify this aussie acro? My best beauty... but my devil urchin decide to push it in a chalice just to see...

Hey Stef, it looks like a little blue stag frag maybe but it's got no growth pattern or outstanding corallite structure to make any decent ID tbh.

Near bed time is T5 time, your beautiful little frag is center stage of the middle pastel island Ken....... thanks again for cutting it mate :beer:

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I know Ken and John will both back me up on this so before anyone asks how i get the sand sifter to pose on top of the sand looking picture perfect i will tell you.

Dave who owns Deer Park aquarium likes to give little 'how to' reef classes whilst visiting mates reefs and he showed us all how super gluing a star fish to a rock that is just UNDER the sand height results in a perfect view of the sand sifter 24/7.
John did ask the question as to the long term viability of the procedure, particularly in relation to the health and well being of the starfish but Ken gave him a filthy look ( Ken is Dave's reef heavy, no one messes with Ken ) and since Ken was standing close enough to get me i just said ' good one Dave ' and gave Ken a nervous :thumbsup:
 
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