A take on BB methodology.

photobarry said:
That's that thing that you find in fish tanks, that's about yea' big around and has the little things hanging off it. Oh, and sometimes it's sticky. ROTFL
Can you eat it?
 
Barry, you work around in the marine labs on the west coast. Does anyone out there use sand for anything other than directly related to sediment studies or benthic ecology?
Come on now, lets not try to fool anyone. The reason behind that has more to do with logistics, simplification, and sterility than it does with nutrient control. Not many research projects are going to run long enough for a DSB to crash.

FWIW Dr. Kempf has a sandbed in his holding tank for Berghia. They only go into BB beakers when he's culturing them.

LOL yes BB tanks can go on forever. There is no sink, rocks shed.
You're telling me that BBs are 100% efficient? You honestly believe that? You are pulling out EXACTLY what you put in, minus the little bit used for growth; no more, no less? If so can I buy the golden gate bridge from you to?

I really feel like I'm talking to a wall here, so I think I'm about done. I really don't expect to be missed, so have fun talking bad about me after I'm gone.
 
Bomber said:
That's what I thought. Corals are just live rock with a thin layer of living tissue over it. Coral skelotons act the same way live rock acts it that they can wick up nutrients, like live rock wicks up nutrients when it's sitting in dirty sand.


Thanks. I didn't even know this was possible. I will be more aggressive in keeping my rocks clean and detritus free. I just gave them a tunze stream blast and I'm preparing a water change :)
 
greenbean36191 said:
Come on now, lets not try to fool anyone. The reason behind that has more to do with logistics, simplification, and sterility than it does with nutrient control. Not many research projects are going to run long enough for a DSB to crash.

FWIW Dr. Kempf has a sandbed in his holding tank for Berghia. They only go into BB beakers when he's culturing them.

You're telling me that BBs are 100% efficient? You honestly believe that? You are pulling out EXACTLY what you put in, minus the little bit used for growth; no more, no less? If so can I buy the golden gate bridge from you to?

I really feel like I'm talking to a wall here, so I think I'm about done. I really don't expect to be missed, so have fun talking bad about me after I'm gone.
Lanikai, kahakai nani, aloha no au ia 'oe. A hui hou kakou.
 
jackson6745 said:
Thanks. I didn't even know this was possible. I will be more aggressive in keeping my rocks clean and detritus free. I just gave them a tunze stream blast and I'm preparing a water change :)

Best of luck Richard!
 
greenbean36191,

I'm sorry for bringing in the word for ever, in the equation, but I honesly think a BB can run for ever in "theory" as I first stated, I did not say it just can because for I to said it, I must first proved it or have someone else prove it, and thats that not the case,

have you ever witness a sand bed gone wrong?, I have, but I have never seem a bottom with nothing on it just go bad, that you must becareful not to touch it for fear of what might release...

you keep telling us that rocks stored nutrients even in a BB, have you tested this, or know one that has proven it?

I have never seem a rocks lose waste on a DSB, like I have seem in my own tank BB

but honesly if eather one works for atleast 15yrs, I will be happy camper

I urgue people to do what works for them,

sam
 
Weatherman said:
It was their extrapolation I thought amusing, almost as if the implication was that as the depth of the sand approached zero the death rate approached infinity.

I thought the exact same thing when I read that.

Actually, I don't think they will let me post what I really thought when I read that.
 
No, I was just pointing out that people keep saying things like "there is no nutrient time bomb" or "my BB can run forever." It can't. The rocks are still trapping nutrients ever so slowly unless your tank is 100% efficient.

100% efficient at export? Well that would suck. I like corals better when they grow.
 
greenbean36191 said:


You're telling me that BBs are 100% efficient? You honestly believe that? You are pulling out EXACTLY what you put in, minus the little bit used for growth; no more, no less? If so can I buy the golden gate bridge from you to?

I really feel like I'm talking to a wall here, so I think I'm about done. I really don't expect to be missed, so have fun talking bad about me after I'm gone.

Don't give up untill either we see your point or you see ours . Thats what RC is about sharing what we know . Just because there are different points of view doesn't mean we all can't get a little something out of it .

Nothing in life is 100% except the fact that one day we will all be dead .

A correctly set up tank will keep settling of detritus of the rocks and floating so a skimmer can get it . What the skimmer doesn't get we should with a siphon durring water changes . Why would a rock clog , we are supposed to clean the rock once in a while with a turkey baster or a power head . You shouldn't do that to A dsb .

Am I wrong that your saying that the LR is the sink ?
 
jackson6745 said:
Thanks. I didn't even know this was possible. I will be more aggressive in keeping my rocks clean and detritus free. I just gave them a tunze stream blast and I'm preparing a water change :)

Oh man I'm sorry to hear the news of the problems .

Good luck .

Try a poly filter pad too , They change colors to what they are taking out . Maybe that can help narrow the field of what's ailing the tank .
 
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