Achilles Tang Primer
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Hard to say what that sohal can do when at feeding time with the achilles. If he gets possessive with food that can hinder the AT in eating in the DT. One thing you dont want is anything is discouraging the AT from eating. IMO
If i was to try one i would get a 4 inch achilles so its not a threat to the sohal.
Just keep that yellow in line till the achilles is established.
If i was to try one i would get a 4 inch achilles so its not a threat to the sohal.
Just keep that yellow in line till the achilles is established.
ryshark
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Sorry I did not take any pictures during the whole process today. I kept the room pretty dark and I did not want to use a flash on him. Plus I spent 2.5 hours acclimating a fish while I should have been at work:worried: I even kept the tank lights off all day today. The lights will be on in the tank tomorrow and I will take some pictures. I decided it would be best in my particular situation to not QT. Here is the DD picture of him: http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/itemdisplay.cfm?c=2733+3&ddid=82528
I think I will add some additional LR to the display to distrurb territories a little before adding an Achilles.
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dr.sinister
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what size of tank do you need for this fish?
FiReBReTHa
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RBU1
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WOW I don't understand how you can make a comment like "QT are a very good thing to do, but not with an Achillies". That makes NO sense at all......OK so QT is good we agree on something. It takes a decent amount of time to properly stock a tank if you do the proper QT. After taking the proper precautions and QTing all my livestock adding a fish that could be a carrier for parasites and disease is not on the top of my list of things to do. You should QT any fish but you have to do it right. If flow is what the fish desires make your QT have flow. But to make a statement like that is totally wrong. Every fish should be put thru a proper QT and if it can't leave it in the ocean.
ryshark
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Here is my Achilles I got on Wednesday from DD. So far not a spec of Ich
<------ knocking on wood
UPDATE- I have had this guy coming up on close to 2-weeks now. He is doing awesome and still not a spec of ich/parasite. Divers Den fish are healthy top quality fish. So far he is eating Nori like a pig and picking at the rocks all day.
Tracey2
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I have had my achillies since Sunday in a 40g breeder for qt. He came from another members marine tank and is eating well but does have a few specks of ich, can anyone recommend the best treatment.
I'm sure this has been covered in this thread but I don't have time to read 50 pages tonight.
I'm sure this has been covered in this thread but I don't have time to read 50 pages tonight.
rangerD275
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I've had my Achilles for three months and it has never had ich (knock on wood), so I don't know if there would be a species specific problem with going the hypo-salinty route. I've done it in the past with good results. Usually the fish can fight it off if it is eating well. I usually soak my nori in Vitamarine C, and Aminomega and my Achilles tears that stuff up. I Started him on live brine just to get him eating and now he's a pig for the nori, and emerald entree. He'll also eat a mysis or two when I feed, but it isn't his favorite.
Tracey2
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Thanks RangerD, I guess it wasn't 50 pages so I did read the previous 22 but still don't know if I am doing the right thing by this guy. I have a lousy camera or I would post a picture, he is big and is eating everything, I have added yet more flow so I have a koralia 2, koralia 3, maxijet 1200, maxijet 400, hang on back filter and sponge filter, liverock and sand, I have done 1-5g water change and plan to do that daily. He is swimming in front of the powerhead alot and seems to go from black to brown in colour, I don't see ich on him today but I know how the cycle of ich works and I am worried because what I am getting from this thread is that they are sentative to any treatment whether in a DT or a QT.
I am going to continue to feed several times a day and work hard to get my new tank going, it will have very established rock, water and sand from my old 180.
I am going to continue to feed several times a day and work hard to get my new tank going, it will have very established rock, water and sand from my old 180.
ryshark
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Are you soaking the Nori in anything like garlic, vita-chem, selcon? That may help the fish fight off the Ich, but it won't completely get rid of it from then tank.
ryshark
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Ranger- Mine is not really taking to the Mysis or Spirulina Brine either. He is just tearing up the Nori which I have 4-colors of. I'm going to pick up some of that Emerald Entree. With the Emerald Endtree, do you thaw the cube in water like a Mysis cube or do you thow it in the tank to let them graze on it?
I tried the Instant Ocean Herbivore Grazng Block. That stuff is expensive and its not good. Even the pigs in my tank (Sailfin and Rabbitfish) which eat everything, wont eat that.
Tracey2
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Thanks, Yes I am soaking all food in selcon and zoe. Right after I posted last night I had a close look at the achillies and he was covered in ich and when I fed nori he showed no interest, I shut the lights out and still haven't turned them on, this morning he ate flakes and mysis and I don't see the ich again. Soon I will have 1 sump 150g set up for my new tank and plan to put my fish that are ich free in it from another qt tank I have going, then I was going to put the fish from my 150g DT into qt and treat them for ich, and put the achillies in my established 150g to make him more comfortable, then I have to decide when to put him in the new 270g and if he should be treated first. I have been told to use chloroquine phosphate, what do you all think? I don't think I saw anywhere on this thread where someone was successful treating this fish for ich? Sorry for the very long post.
Fish Dog
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Tracey2, how big is the AT? AT's usually get ich either way it goes, but Most of the AT keepers on this forum put theirs in the DT and let the Garlic and Vitamins boost their immune system to fight the parasites. Of course yours is probably a little more stressed from being in a 40g QT.. You can either use the Hypo method or Copper to get rid of the ich. From what I have seen and heard AT's don't do well with a lot of tank transfers (40g to 150g and then 150g to 270g). just food for thought.
My AT eats anything! You may want to try NLS pellets thera A and add a little more flow to the QT tank. Good Luck, Achilles can be delicate at first but once established they are very hardy and amazing fish.
Au Revoir
My AT eats anything! You may want to try NLS pellets thera A and add a little more flow to the QT tank. Good Luck, Achilles can be delicate at first but once established they are very hardy and amazing fish.
Au Revoir
Going on 1 month with my 3-4 inch Achilles. After drip acclimation he went straight into my 220 reef. All lights out so he wasn't immediately stressed by his tank mates.
So far no parasites either physically observed or noticed by the fish's behavior. He eats just about everything now, but in the beginning he had the habit of taking food in and spitting back out small bits. Especially Mysis.
I soak both frozen and algae sheets cut up into smaller pieces in Zoe, Zoecon, Angelxir (sp?), and Garlic Extreme.
I also run a 40W UV on my tank.
So far no parasites either physically observed or noticed by the fish's behavior. He eats just about everything now, but in the beginning he had the habit of taking food in and spitting back out small bits. Especially Mysis.
I soak both frozen and algae sheets cut up into smaller pieces in Zoe, Zoecon, Angelxir (sp?), and Garlic Extreme.
I also run a 40W UV on my tank.
Tracey2
New member
Thanks Fish Dog, if it were any other tang I would not be worried, I have treated successfully with both hypo and cupramine. Unless I missed it in the last 22 pages not one person that has used either method and had the fish live, please let me know if you have had any success with either treament.
My achillies is maybe 4-5", he was in the 270 for about 9mths so I am hoping will be a little more hardy. Would I be better to leave him in the 40 until the 270 is ready (3 weeks)? He is eating mysis/ spirulina brine, ocean nutrician formula one, new life spectrum pellets, nori and other seaweed but did not eat last night when I could see alot of ich. What is thera A.
Right now he is swimming alot in front of the powerhead with lights out and he is more grey than black. I welcome all suggestions, thanks
My achillies is maybe 4-5", he was in the 270 for about 9mths so I am hoping will be a little more hardy. Would I be better to leave him in the 40 until the 270 is ready (3 weeks)? He is eating mysis/ spirulina brine, ocean nutrician formula one, new life spectrum pellets, nori and other seaweed but did not eat last night when I could see alot of ich. What is thera A.
Right now he is swimming alot in front of the powerhead with lights out and he is more grey than black. I welcome all suggestions, thanks
