take two live rock and put two sea weed on it and rubber band it
put each of the live rock on each end of the tank and leave it alone
it will eat
Achilles Tang Primer
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take two live rock and put two sea weed on it and rubber band it
put each of the live rock on each end of the tank and leave it alone
it will eat
1ucky
Member
I have had mine for about 10 months now and still eating like a pig! He eats everything but pellets. He grew for 3" to about 5 1/2" and has gotten fat, full of colors, and bold (killed my Tinker's Butterfly :sad1
. From what I learned about this fish is that if you have a big enough set-up, good water parameters, feed it at least twice daily (soak all my food in garlic, Zoe, n vitamins), and great circulation, you have a great chance of sucess. I'm not saying that 10 months is success for this type of fish but being my first Achilles Tang ever, I think so far I'm doing a good job of ensuring it's happiness and health:thumbsup:.
. From what I learned about this fish is that if you have a big enough set-up, good water parameters, feed it at least twice daily (soak all my food in garlic, Zoe, n vitamins), and great circulation, you have a great chance of sucess. I'm not saying that 10 months is success for this type of fish but being my first Achilles Tang ever, I think so far I'm doing a good job of ensuring it's happiness and health:thumbsup:.I am about to pick up an achilles, i have a 2x2x14' QT (30 gal) set up with approx 20lbs of LR and a deltec mce600 HOB skimmer. Should i also add a tunse 6045 for flow? all other fish i have QT i just use the skimmer return for flow but hear achilles require more.
as for food i have the following in prep for it
red, green and purple nori (julian sprung)
sea veggies mixed (JS also)
sera vitamin
frozen mysis (hikari)
frozen brine spiralina (hikari)
garic guard (seachem)
will QT for 6 weeks minimum, will treat with hypo if required. any other tips?
Thanks
Ryan
as for food i have the following in prep for it
red, green and purple nori (julian sprung)
sea veggies mixed (JS also)
sera vitamin
frozen mysis (hikari)
frozen brine spiralina (hikari)
garic guard (seachem)
will QT for 6 weeks minimum, will treat with hypo if required. any other tips?
Thanks
Ryan
padova335i
Member
these fish def like to swim, 30 g wont be too nice for him...
mine is still in hypo, he was at .06!!!!!!!!!! ich is all gone will watch him another 2 weeks at normal salt then add him... i will be adding him w a powder brown a powder blue and a mimic lemon peel in a 400.... it may work it may not.. i think I can make it happen... we will see
mine is still in hypo, he was at .06!!!!!!!!!! ich is all gone will watch him another 2 weeks at normal salt then add him... i will be adding him w a powder brown a powder blue and a mimic lemon peel in a 400.... it may work it may not.. i think I can make it happen... we will see
My name is Mike and I'm an addict. I really didn't need to drop 2 bills on another fish but I couldn't help myself. When my local shop said they were getting one in I told the owner I'd buy it before it was even out of the shipping box. I'm hoping that my wife will let me off the couch and back in bed in a few weeks.
I've had the fish in QT for 3 days now and it eats nori and not much else that I can see. I've fed Formula 1 and 2, PE Mysis and Hikari Mysis, and nori sheets. At first I was very worried as it seemed to only be pecking at the nori like it was trying to figure out what it was but after a few hours it started really grazing on it and finds new sheets as soon as I put them in the tank. As long as it's eating that I'm not going to worry about trying to get it onto other foods right now, although I will still add a few bits of whatever I'm feeding in the main tank. If nothing else it will give the skimmer something to chew on.
The fish appears to be completely healthy, with no bones showing under the skin and no spots, abrasions, or lacerations. Color is good and solid, fins are intact and aren't folded or held close, and the fish moves around very well. I'm not going to treat with copper but I am in the process of slowly lowering the salinity and will take it down to 1.010 while monitoring alkalinity and pH. I figure it will be at least a couple more days until I get to that level. Once I get it there my plan is to keep the fish in the tank for at least 4 weeks, longer if anything pops up.
The 4 weeks in QT is the part that worries me. My tank has good equipment, filtration and lighting but it's only a 20G, and doesn't allow much room for a fish like this to move around. What can I do to minimize the amount of stress that the fish will feel from being in such a confined space? If the fish has no sign of parasites after two weeks but is showing signs of stress do I move it to the DT? Help me with any ideas for relieving/minimizing stress for the fish and recommendations on how soon I could move it if it shows no sign of parasites. Not to say that one should receive less care than another but if this were Yellow Tang it would be 8 weeks in the tank and that's that but this is the first Achilles I've seen in the store in as long as I can remember and it cost me an arm and a leg. I need to play this as safely as I can.
Thanks,
Mike
I've had the fish in QT for 3 days now and it eats nori and not much else that I can see. I've fed Formula 1 and 2, PE Mysis and Hikari Mysis, and nori sheets. At first I was very worried as it seemed to only be pecking at the nori like it was trying to figure out what it was but after a few hours it started really grazing on it and finds new sheets as soon as I put them in the tank. As long as it's eating that I'm not going to worry about trying to get it onto other foods right now, although I will still add a few bits of whatever I'm feeding in the main tank. If nothing else it will give the skimmer something to chew on.
The fish appears to be completely healthy, with no bones showing under the skin and no spots, abrasions, or lacerations. Color is good and solid, fins are intact and aren't folded or held close, and the fish moves around very well. I'm not going to treat with copper but I am in the process of slowly lowering the salinity and will take it down to 1.010 while monitoring alkalinity and pH. I figure it will be at least a couple more days until I get to that level. Once I get it there my plan is to keep the fish in the tank for at least 4 weeks, longer if anything pops up.
The 4 weeks in QT is the part that worries me. My tank has good equipment, filtration and lighting but it's only a 20G, and doesn't allow much room for a fish like this to move around. What can I do to minimize the amount of stress that the fish will feel from being in such a confined space? If the fish has no sign of parasites after two weeks but is showing signs of stress do I move it to the DT? Help me with any ideas for relieving/minimizing stress for the fish and recommendations on how soon I could move it if it shows no sign of parasites. Not to say that one should receive less care than another but if this were Yellow Tang it would be 8 weeks in the tank and that's that but this is the first Achilles I've seen in the store in as long as I can remember and it cost me an arm and a leg. I need to play this as safely as I can.
Thanks,
Mike
I have read thru mot of this thread (18 pages) and it seems the general concensus is not to QT this fish, funny tho most of these fish not QT died shortly afterward.
I have reassed my QT option and will now use my 4x2x1 prop tank which is roughly 50 gal and run a larger skimmer with lots of flow.
I have reassed my QT option and will now use my 4x2x1 prop tank which is roughly 50 gal and run a larger skimmer with lots of flow.
I have read thru mot of this thread (18 pages) and it seems the general concensus is not to QT this fish, funny tho most of these fish not QT died shortly afterward.
I have reassed my QT option and will now use my 4x2x1 prop tank which is roughly 50 gal and run a larger skimmer with lots of flow.
I have reassed my QT option and will now use my 4x2x1 prop tank which is roughly 50 gal and run a larger skimmer with lots of flow.
I love this fish - Just lost a large one to ich. He would eat red marine algae and nothing else. Lived about 3 weeks in my tank and shortened my life span about 12 months! 
here is a short video of him eating the red marine algae:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0USOiCAFY0
here is a short video of him eating the red marine algae:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0USOiCAFY0
Recty
New member
I love this fish - Just lost a large one to ich. He would eat red marine algae and nothing else. Lived about 3 weeks in my tank and shortened my life span about 12 months!
here is a short video of him eating the red marine algae:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0USOiCAFY0
He sure didnt look very healthy, although I couldnt see ich on his body, his fins looked really spotted and cloudy. He didnt look good, did he come to you in that condition or did that develop in your tank?
He looked good in the store (only about 36 hrs in the store) but after 24 hrs or so in my system he developed ich and continued to show signs of the parasite. About 3 days before he perished (20 days in my tank) he looked like he was going to fully recover and get past the ich but then all of the sudden he got sick and he perished within 36 hrs. He was eating vitamin soaked sea algae till the last 24 hrs or so and he was not emaciated.
Really (thinking back) I believe that he was too big for my 200 gal DT (he was about 10"). "IF" I try again it will be with a smaller specimen and only after I view it eating frozen or flake food in the store.
Really (thinking back) I believe that he was too big for my 200 gal DT (he was about 10"). "IF" I try again it will be with a smaller specimen and only after I view it eating frozen or flake food in the store.
ccampbell57
Premium Member
Why forgo QT? This Achillies would have been able to be saved...eating at the LFS and "looking Healthy" is not a proper way to place fish in home aquaria. With a special fish like this that is very easily overcome by disease, why not make it bullet proof by medicating and leaving in isolation to allow to be healthy.
Your next fish "SHOULD" go through QT and be properly maintained, not just watched.
+1 Chris, but its sad, but a lot of the posters in this thread are against QT and its a primer...
ccampbell57
Premium Member
i agree...anyone against QT is against the long-term health of a fish.
Basically giving the fish a 50/50 chance.
RBU1
Moving on Up
Chris,
You are aware of my situation. I did QT the Achilles Hybrid for 8 weeks. As soon as I put him in my main tank he broke out with crypt. Not bad but noticeable. He still has it 4 weeks later. Granted I did not treat him with copper while in QT but I did leave him in ther for an extended period.
You are aware of my situation. I did QT the Achilles Hybrid for 8 weeks. As soon as I put him in my main tank he broke out with crypt. Not bad but noticeable. He still has it 4 weeks later. Granted I did not treat him with copper while in QT but I did leave him in ther for an extended period.
