Addicted to computers!
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clkwrk
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Gezzze a year 
By that time everything will be outdated 
BTW I am a computer person also . I always build my own computers . That way I don't get screwed , I know what I have, and I get what I want.............Also you got to love dual flatscreens . My computers are geared towards heavy gaming, photo editing , music creation,media center and more...
Have fun
By that time everything will be outdated BTW I am a computer person also . I always build my own computers . That way I don't get screwed , I know what I have, and I get what I want.............Also you got to love dual flatscreens . My computers are geared towards heavy gaming, photo editing , music creation,media center and more...
Have fun
rljlll
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i have built quite a few myself make sure you ground yourself or wear a grounding strap fried a mother board once because i didn't
I agree that by the time you get the last piece to build your comp the first few will be close to outdated if not already you would be better off if you saved up then dumped the cash in all at once my 0.02
I agree that by the time you get the last piece to build your comp the first few will be close to outdated if not already you would be better off if you saved up then dumped the cash in all at once my 0.02
azmorpheus
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Im a big computer person too, im pretty sure there are a lot of us on here. What kind of system are you planning on doing?
Cody Ray
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I'm not going for everything being state-of-the-art. You can get good hardware if you go for stuff that has been out for a while. At my age I don't have the money for the latest and greatest so I am happy with quality upper-middle stuff.
Anyways, here are a few things I am starting out with. I don't really want a laptop but I want to be able to take this with me so I am going with an Aspire X-Qpack Blue Micro ATX Tower, Intel D101GGCL ATI Socket 775 MicroATX Motherboard, and an Intel Pentium 4 531 3.0GHz processor. Other than this everything else is up in the air. Both my friends house and mine have wireless networks so I want a wireless PCI card. Im also interested in getting a simple wireless mini keyboard w/ touch mousepad. Whatever video card I get needs to have a tv out port (most do nowadays) so that I can hook the computer to a tv. This will be mostly for movies and music.
Anyways, here are a few things I am starting out with. I don't really want a laptop but I want to be able to take this with me so I am going with an Aspire X-Qpack Blue Micro ATX Tower, Intel D101GGCL ATI Socket 775 MicroATX Motherboard, and an Intel Pentium 4 531 3.0GHz processor. Other than this everything else is up in the air. Both my friends house and mine have wireless networks so I want a wireless PCI card. Im also interested in getting a simple wireless mini keyboard w/ touch mousepad. Whatever video card I get needs to have a tv out port (most do nowadays) so that I can hook the computer to a tv. This will be mostly for movies and music.
Cody Ray
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Well the router is located in the guest bedroom and I would prefer to use my computer in my bedroom. This is plan B over drilling holes in the walls and stringing wire through them. So far I haven't had any issues with my wireless internet, always excellent! I'm thinking for my b-day I will pick up a 100/Mbs router over my 54/Mbs one I have now. The reason I would only get the 100/Mbs is that my internet providor says they have a max rate of 100/Mbs.
Aaron
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If all you are doing is surfing the internet then getting a wireless router faster then 54MB (802.11g) is pretty useless... never listen to the ISP (internet provider) their tech support is always useless or even flat out wrong most of the time.
If you can wire CAT5e that is the best... but wireless is nice especially if you 'roam' with a laptop/notebook/tablet/pda.
Get yourself a nice D-Link 802.11g MIMO enabled router for like $40 and be done with it.
also...
Building a computer is not like building/restoring a car or a home... buying a part at a time over a year is not an intelligent way to do it... not to mention makes no financial sense at all.
You will be wasting your $ since what you bought a year ago for say $100 will be worth about $20 when you are ready to use it.
If you don't have the $, just save your pennies in your savings acct so it earns interest. Figure out how much you want to spend and then when you have the $ buy the best equipment you can with the $ you have.
I'm been doing computers for 15 years, back to the XT days (most of you will have no idea what that means) and I've built well over 1000 PCs, not including who knows how many servers. I NEVER buy the latest ang greatest with my $. I always buy 1 generaltion or so back. My current PC is an AMD 3000+ overclocked to 3500+ speeds, using a $30 heatsync/fan and it is silent. This was all with a Fry's ECS/AMD combo for $150. Now these are $130.
Everyone does things differently but most people waste $ on PCs they never use fully. But I do thank the "I have more money then brains" type gamers buying $400 video cards since they are supportig the R&D depts :lol: so people like me can get the cards cheap a year later.
If you can wire CAT5e that is the best... but wireless is nice especially if you 'roam' with a laptop/notebook/tablet/pda.
Get yourself a nice D-Link 802.11g MIMO enabled router for like $40 and be done with it.
also...
Building a computer is not like building/restoring a car or a home... buying a part at a time over a year is not an intelligent way to do it... not to mention makes no financial sense at all.
You will be wasting your $ since what you bought a year ago for say $100 will be worth about $20 when you are ready to use it.
If you don't have the $, just save your pennies in your savings acct so it earns interest. Figure out how much you want to spend and then when you have the $ buy the best equipment you can with the $ you have.
I'm been doing computers for 15 years, back to the XT days (most of you will have no idea what that means) and I've built well over 1000 PCs, not including who knows how many servers. I NEVER buy the latest ang greatest with my $. I always buy 1 generaltion or so back. My current PC is an AMD 3000+ overclocked to 3500+ speeds, using a $30 heatsync/fan and it is silent. This was all with a Fry's ECS/AMD combo for $150. Now these are $130.
Everyone does things differently but most people waste $ on PCs they never use fully. But I do thank the "I have more money then brains" type gamers buying $400 video cards since they are supportig the R&D depts :lol: so people like me can get the cards cheap a year later.
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rljlll
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this is what i did....
i got a couple of face plate for the cat5 at home depot drilled a whole ran a cord up the wall through the atic and down the second wall attached both ends into the face plates screwed the plates in the wass and use a small cat5 cord to plug router to wall and one to go from 2nd wall to comp its pretty easy
i got a couple of face plate for the cat5 at home depot drilled a whole ran a cord up the wall through the atic and down the second wall attached both ends into the face plates screwed the plates in the wass and use a small cat5 cord to plug router to wall and one to go from 2nd wall to comp its pretty easy
minitrucker
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You don' have to drill holes for the cat 5 you can use the prexisting phone jacks and just rewire them as a duel jack except 1 of them is a rj11 plug and run the wire up through the wall through the attic and then down into the next wall just don't do this during the hot part of the summer.
Jay
Jay
minitrucker
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well that was scary
minitrucker
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I guess I am getting old I did not see the last post
cwegescheide
YOU have been ignored!
I'm a computer programmer by trade. Been into computers for quite a while. Used to build my own.. Then it seems you'll get the same thing for alot cheaper if you just get a nice Dell. Just make sure the motherboard you get has the ability to expand with higher processors and expansion slots etc...
Chris
Chris
Aaron
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I disagree with this and it is pretty easy to prove wrong. I can take almost ANY dell machine and match the same specs for at least a 20% lower price, including taxes/shipping/etc.
Dell makes decent (and I mean only decent, not good) machines for the general public. They are not by ANY stretch high-quality equipment. Any el cheapo ECS motherboard is at least as good as a Dell mobo and the ECS will have more expandability most of the time.
If you have the know-how or the time/patience NOTHING can beat building your own when considering price and/or expandability and/or options... NOTHING!
psimitry
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Sounds like a pretty decent setup. I'm an AMD man as a rule, but I think for what you're doing, the Intel may be a better bet (unless you're a big gamer, and then you should always go with AMD).
I don't want to start up the whole AMD vs. Intel debate (mainly because they both have good points depending on their purpose). I just wanted to make sure that he was aware of AMD chips.
psimitry
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Actually, the best bang for the buck CPU with AMD is the Athlon 64 3500+ which at Newegg.com is running $200. The Pentium 4 630 (3.0 GHz) is $187.
They're pretty close is most benchmarks with the exception of gaming in which AMD CPU's DESTROY Intel CPU's.
Still. The 630 is a good CPU and with an Intel chipset, it's rock solid stable.
But if you go AMD, I'd highly recommend the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard. Good stuff.
If you don't like MSI (for those people that don't though I don't honestly know why), the Asus A8N-E is an excellent board.
Just whatever you do, don't waste your cash and go with SLI. It's a huge waste of money - the usual justification on it is that one can buy a second video card for less money and get more performance. The catch there is that usually a newer generation of video processor has come out and for nearly the same amount of money, a lot more performance can be gained.
They're pretty close is most benchmarks with the exception of gaming in which AMD CPU's DESTROY Intel CPU's.
Still. The 630 is a good CPU and with an Intel chipset, it's rock solid stable.
But if you go AMD, I'd highly recommend the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard. Good stuff.
If you don't like MSI (for those people that don't though I don't honestly know why), the Asus A8N-E is an excellent board.
Just whatever you do, don't waste your cash and go with SLI. It's a huge waste of money - the usual justification on it is that one can buy a second video card for less money and get more performance. The catch there is that usually a newer generation of video processor has come out and for nearly the same amount of money, a lot more performance can be gained.
