Adding these predators for my predatory tank???

[curlykid]

time for Dory to find a new home where she can turn without being ripped in half! all kidding aside, you really need to be more concerned about the issue of your stocking.

 

[Master Kyle 297]

Yes, im removing the sailfin, maroon clowns, and sadly Dory for now. I might consider removing the dwarf lion and if the anthias gets too big too.

Or I can find a large cheap tank to put the bigger ones in. About how many gallons would I need to house a blue tang with plenty of swimming room?

 

[tcoral]

Yes, im removing the sailfin, maroon clowns, and sadly Dory for now. I might consider removing the dwarf lion and if the anthias gets too big too.

Or I can find a large cheap tank to put the bigger ones in. About how many gallons would I need to house a blue tang with plenty of swimming room?

According to this, 240 gallons, I wouldn't put them in less than 180 gallons, they get big and like a lot of swimming room:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1946079

they also eat a lot and produce a lot of waste, which can foul the tank, causing ammonia and nitrate spikes, which will stress/kill fish.

Also, like the others said, any fish that'll fit in the others mouth they'll eat. You need to do research before putting them in there. For your size tank, you'd need to go with the smaller tangs (and not just the immature size) if any at all.

 

[Master Kyle 297]

Im actually thinking about a dwarf angel to replace the tangs, like a flame angel or something

 

[tcoral]

Im actually thinking about a dwarf angel to replace the tangs, like a flame angel or something

Now you're thinking in the right size range, think about the ultimate size of the fish . Do research on the angels though, some pick at zoas and corals

 

[Master Kyle 297]

I've had a coral beauty before but I gave him to a friend, I had a bicolor which the coral beauty killed. So now im thinking of a flame angel unless there are other better looking dwarf angels?

 

[davelin315]

Coral banded shrimp do not clean. They will take fish when the opportunity allows.

That's incorrect, they are cleaners but also have the potential to prey on small fish and other crustaceans. I've had them clean fish in the past and also had them be model citizens. The one I currently have, though, is a pain as it eats any other shrimp that I put in there.

I agree with most of what everyone else is saying regarding your current stock list as anecdotal evidence and known eating habits show that a lot of your fish will eventually eat each other. Plus, in a 90 gallon tank, some of your fish are not only going to outgrow it, but when combined with other fish will certainly exhibit increased territoriality. I'm not the model citizen for what should and shouldn't go into a tank, but there's quite a few combinations you currently have and are thinking about that I wouldn't try out. That said, there's tons of misconceptions and misperceptions out there about what can and cannot go together that have been perpetuated by people who have no experience with it repeating what they have heard, true or false, but again, many of your combinations are not advisable.

As far as your actual stocking list, the lion and the marine betta (as already stated) are fish that will eat whatever fits in their mouths. The trigger is relatively harmless, but can grow quite large. The anthias and bangaii are probably just food for the betta and lion down the line. The clowns may also become food, but will also start to fight each other with the perculas probably losing out at some point in time. I don't think that the Pacific Blue will get too big for your tank, at least not any time soon, but the sailfin can grow to the size of a dinner plate or larger and they don't seem to be as limited in their growth by environment as the Pacific Blue tangs are.

 

[tcoral]

Which one(s) could possibly go in my tank?

Harlequin Tuskfish <span style="color:red"> max size: 10", min tank size: 120 gallons, will eat your inverts</span>
Cleaner Wrasse <span style="color:red"> small, may become lunch, can starve if not enough parasites to feed on</span>
Banded Snake Eel <span style="color:red"> mature size 38", min tank size 150 gallons, maybe a snowflake or dwarf eel instead?</span>
Bamboo Cat Shark or Banded Cat Shark <span style="color:red">like the others said, big!</span>
Purple Reef Lobster <span style="color:red"> eat or be eaten? http://www.freshmarine.com/purple-orange-lobster.html </span>
Frogfish or Angler <span style="color:red"> may work if other fish are bigger than mouth, maybe with a small eel?</span>
Sailfin Scorpionfish <span style="color:red"> also may work, watch out though, toxic! </span>
Western Blue Devil <span style="color:red"> may work, max size 1'</span>
Leopard Wrasse <span style="color:red"> hard to keep, if too small may become food for others </span>
Lunare Wrasse <span style="color:red"> max size 10", min tank 125 gallons, not reef safe will eat your inverts</span>

Tank:
90 Gallon Predatory Tank - T5 four bulbs

Fish:
Male SPotfin Anthias
Banggai Cardinal <span style="color:red"> depending on other fish, may be food</span>
Maroon CLownfish (pair)<span style="color:red"> can grow big and very mean, don't put in with percs, either one or the other depending on what fish you want in there</span>
Percula Clownfish (pair)<span style="color:red"> one or the other</span>
Marine Betta Grouper (aka Sea Comet)<span style="color:red"> OK, watch your stocking levels</span>
Longnose Hawkfish<span style="color:red"> gets to be 5" deceptive on how big it's mouth is!</span>
Fuzzy Dwarf Lionfish<span style="color:red"> eating? may need live foods</span>
BLue Tang <span style="color:red"> out, will get too big for tank</span>
Sailfin Tang <span style="color:red"> out, will get too big for tank</span>
Niger Trigger <span style="color:red"> out, will get too big for tank</span>


Inverts:
Bulb Anemone (2)
<span style="color:red">the inverts below will be a seafood buffet for some of your predators in the list above.</span>
Emerald Crab
Strawberry Crab (2)
Black Sea Cucumber
Feather Dusters
Red Leg Hermits
Coral Banded Shrimp
Nassarius Snail
Turbo Snails
Sand Sifting Starfish


Corals:
Pineapple Brain
Branching Frogspawn
Branching Torch
Toadstool Leather
Red Mushrooms
Red/Green Ricordea Mushrooms
Zoanthid Polyps
Green Star Polyps
Yellow Polyps
Button Polyps

A dwarf eel (snowflake, hawaiian dwarf, or jeweled) and some of the smaller fish on your list would make an interesting tank. Make sure you have a tight fitting cover on the tank.

Perhaps:
dwarf eel
angler or scorpion fish
dwarf lion
anthias (though they like swimming room)
either the maroon or the perc clown or marine betta.
longnose hawkfish

(if you must have a tang, have 1 and make it a smaller growing one like a Kole, bristletooth, OR mimic)

 

[Master Kyle 297]

Ok got it thanks