Algae Barn Review- Buyer Beware

clsund

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Hi everyone,

just wanted to share with everyone what has been going on with my business relationship with Algae Barn.

I've purchased a bunch of stuff from them. I recently purchased a pair of their captive bred Mandarins. Knowing that they need a lot of pods, I bought a large amount when I purchased them as well as a can of Cyclopeeze. I spent a good amount of time on the phone with Kevin trying to learn their feeding protocols with the Cyclopeeze. When it appeared that the Mandarins were only interested in feeding on live food, I then was forced to start a subscription order with them for live pods so that I could ensure they were properly fed.

The trouble started when I got an email from Algaebarn about a clean up crew package. I added it as a one-time purchase item to my subscription order. All good right? Well, the day my subscription order was supposed to ship, I got an error message saying that the clean up crew was out of stock. Cool, no problem. I'll just take the pods. But apparently, the pod order also got cancelled with the clean up crew. But no where in the error message did it say my pods were cancelled as well. After a few days when the pods should have arrived and they still hadn't, I called Algae Barn and spoke to Kevin who had no idea that their System was doing automatic cancellation of entire orders when something was out of stock. Oh, and the clean up crew had been added to my subscription order as a permanent recurring item.

At this point, I was getting kind of exasperated with them but kept the cool. I made sure that they were going to send my pods. This isn't the first time I have had issues with them. I had previously signed up for email updates on Mandarins but never got them. What was really weird was that even though I had only looked at the Mandarins on the website, I started getting emails from them telling me, "Looks like you left something in your Cart." When I would go back to the website to look, it would say, "Out of stock." This happened multiple times on multiple days. In a very friendly and helpful way, I called and spoke to Kevin and alerted him to these glitches in their website. I mentioned both not receiving the Mandarin updates and their "You left something..." emails to Kevin. He happily thanked me for my help (though it took multiple back and forths for him to understand what I was trying to tell him.)

Now comes the gut punch- this morning, I found the smaller of the two Mandarins dead on the bottom of my tank AND another error email from Algae Barn about my order. My oldest boy was the one who found "Peach" on the tank floor and started crying. I was devastated. I whipped off another email to Algae Barn about the error message and the now dead Mandarin, stating that I felt the failure of my pod order was the cause of the death of Peach. And I stated that the failure of the pod order was absolutely their fault and expected a replacement Mandarin to be sent.

I got another email this afternoon stating from Kevin that Algae Barn was not responsible for Mandarin feeding once it was delivered. While I would usually agree, when your company fails to deliver said food that I had ordered to feed said Mandarin, I would completely disagree.

Anyways, I'm waiting to hear back from Algae Barn at this point and wanted to share my experience with the community.

At this point, I would say, Buyer Beware. I've definitely been helping them work out their glitches and suffering the consequences. Also be aware that if they screw up, they won't take responsibility for their mistakes.
 
Seriously sucks that because of there system failing after you informed them multiple times caused the death of the mandarin. I would expect a replacement too.











Im just gonna leave this here \/















RIP Peach


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That’s really too bad because my experiences with alage barn has been nothing but stellar in the past. I hope they get their act together again. Will stay tuned.
 
They're small biz. They fumble every now and then. I ordered some captive bred ora snails ... could never arrive alive.

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Sorry for the issues your having. The pods should be reproducing and these mandarins are really small. I wouldn't immediately equate the mandarins death on the algae barn glitch. I got one and within two weeks it just disappeared and I had been seeding pods in the tank well before I bought it. Were you observing the mandarins feeding and what's the body weight like?
 
sorry peach didnt make it hopefully, you can still get some pod points

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Sounds like a lot of drama over nothing. Some email errors, issue with their automated order system. My wife buys from many online vendors from huge business like Macy's and even they will cancel hey order without notice.
I wouldn't put the death if the fish on them. The moment you didn't get your pod order you should've sourced them from somewhere else if their lives were truly dependent on it. Though i think it's foolhardy already trying to keep any Mandarin in a tank without a large pod population going BEFORE they are introduced.

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Sounds like a lot of drama over nothing. Some email errors, issue with their automated order system. My wife buys from many online vendors from huge business like Macy's and even they will cancel hey order without notice.
I wouldn't put the death if the fish on them. The moment you didn't get your pod order you should've sourced them from somewhere else if their lives were truly dependent on it. Though i think it's foolhardy already trying to keep any Mandarin in a tank without a large pod population going BEFORE they are introduced.

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You ever hear the expression "you catch more flies with honey then you do with vinegar"?
 
Sounds like a lot of drama over nothing. Some email errors, issue with their automated order system. My wife buys from many online vendors from huge business like Macy's and even they will cancel hey order without notice.
I wouldn't put the death if the fish on them. The moment you didn't get your pod order you should've sourced them from somewhere else if their lives were truly dependent on it. Though i think it's foolhardy already trying to keep any Mandarin in a tank without a large pod population going BEFORE they are introduced.

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lol @ comparing pods/algae/mandarins to macys
 
I guess I'll be the one to point out that maybe you shouldn't even have a mandarin if your system can't sustain enough pods for it without continually relying on an outside source. It's great that your willing to do that but then you run into issues such as this.
 
I guess I'll be the one to point out that maybe you shouldn't even have a mandarin if your system can't sustain enough pods for it without continually relying on an outside source. It's great that your willing to do that but then you run into issues such as this.

I completely agree with you water is wet. The problem isn't algae barn, the problem is that you OP got emotional because your son witnessed something traumatic to him, that is part of life but you are doing a disservice to him by pointing the finger at someone else instead of informing your son that death happens and maybe you should have waited to have a healthy pod population before introducing a fish whose life depends on it. This is a perfect example of why so many snowflakes amd entitled kids are running around these days. Sorry to be so blunt but if you pull back and look at the big picture, you will agree I have made a very good point....coming down off my soapbox now...lol
 
here's some math done by Sk8r on how many pods you'd need to buy to supply a mandarin. I've counted my mandarin and scooter blennies' eating habbit. they peck on the rock every few seconds.

They can eat that thousand pods in about an hour and 15 minutes.

A mandy should be making a successful 'kill' of a pod every 5 seconds to remain healthy

To run the math, there are 86400 seconds in 24 hours...and given 12 hours of dark when it is not eating (it actually eats before the lights come on...that is 43200 seconds of daylight, divided by 5 (every five seconds)---meaning that a mandy eats about 8640 pods a day, or 720 an hour. Two thousand pods, if fed to it in the required concentration, will be eaten in less than 3 hours.

those are costly meals if you are supplying purely from Algaebarn
 
It could very well be that the business model is trying to expand passed what it can sustain. When customers set up recurring orders, it give the algae barn an idea of how to forecast future shipments. People that are already established recurring costumers should get their order like clockwork. That's a flaw in their business practice. I would be willing to bet that newer customers and/or LFS's get a priority over long time customers.

We can draw parallels to those that bought into the Triton method and rely on product availability to sustain stable parameters only to have the company fall short of its responsibilities by not keeping up with the demand.

I guess I'll be the one to point out that maybe you shouldn't even have a mandarin if your system can't sustain enough pods for it without continually relying on an outside source.

The OP can use that argument the same way, "I guess I'll be the one to point out that maybe algae barn shouldn't promise more than they can to sustain enough pods for their recurring customers".

There's plenty of blame to go around, if that happened to me and I knew in advance that I wasn't getting the shipment, I would have made a beeline to the LFS to ensure my responsibilities aren't negated because a company can't do their job.
 
Fish Die, and you picked a very hard to keep fish. If you regularly dump pods in I would think you should maintain their numbers enough to sustain to very small fish? RIP Peaches, sorry for your loss. I as a parent tried to shield my children from death actually replacing a fish at one point, with that said they did not do very well when Grandpa died last month and it is making me rethink my position on teaching my children the cycle of life. It sucks that we are all going to die:(

Some of these operations are much smaller than you would expect and when they take off a week to grow their business at a show like Macna their business can suffer, I do not know if this is the case, but you do have to appreciate a business that grows cultures for a very small market. Sounds like they may need a bigger Barn.
 
Sorry about the customer service. Order live foods from Reef Nutrition or AlgaGen.

Try some frozen cyclops or fish roe as well when you add the live foods.
[MENTION=15906]Monkie[/MENTION] 8,000 pods per day? I'm going to say yeah right! LOL

There is a reason why ORA didn't continue to sell the mandarins. They are a difficult fish to keep whether they are aquacultured, tank bred, or wild caught.

Good luck!
 
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