Alk never seems to drop

NastyZ

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Ok so I dose two part b-ionic and I never have to add alk because it's always hovering at 10dkh and my ph is at 8.2 while my cal deplets my alk never seems to move is this normal? Iv used almost half the bottle of cal but none of the alk any advise or info would be appreciated thanks
 
its usually the other way around. lol. have u tested the water with some other test kit.
try that. maybe its a bad kit.
 
there are many times that i am aware of brand new kits came bad , recently hanna alk had a bad batch. just something to eliminate off our list.
 
Other sources of alkalinity are pH buffer, which all add alkalinity, despite advertising claims, and tap water, which can have a lot of alkalinity in it. What's being dosed into the system?
 
Other sources of alkalinity are pH buffer, which all add alkalinity, despite advertising claims, and tap water, which can have a lot of alkalinity in it. What's being dosed into the system?

All I dose is 2part bionic and 15% water changes weekly RO/DI water not taP my neighbor said it might be that I don't have a whole lot of corals but once I start putting more it will start to deplet like the calcium bu I thought the 2 part were designed to be used wit one another doesn't one buffer out the other?
 
If you Mg count is not stable the Ca is falling out of solution and will not be present in the test but is sitting on you sand bed.
Mg roll in your water chemistry is to keep the Ca molecules and the carbonate molecules in solution I.E. floating in your water, until the corals absorb and build there skeleton that is made up of calcium carbonate. What your after here is the coral breaking down the elements not the other way around. you said that you dont have alot of corals, if your using a good quality salt mix and keeping up with your water changes(small weekly) you should not have to dose anything extra. The reason that you pay the extra money for good salt is so you dont have to dose as much supplements.
 
If you Mg count is not stable the Ca is falling out of solution and will not be present in the test but is sitting on you sand bed.
Mg roll in your water chemistry is to keep the Ca molecules and the carbonate molecules in solution I.E. floating in your water, until the corals absorb and build there skeleton that is made up of calcium carbonate. What your after here is the coral breaking down the elements not the other way around. you said that you dont have alot of corals, if your using a good quality salt mix and keeping up with your water changes(small weekly) you should not have to dose anything extra. The reason that you pay the extra money for good salt is so you dont have to dose as much supplements.


Makes sense I use reef crystals from what I understand those are really good and my mag the last I checked was 1300 whic was about a week ago (I'll check again) wouldn't the cal pertisapate out I dont notice it if It does shouldnt it look like sand in the water colum ?
 
The corals I have are birdsnest which started out as a stick now it's about 3x3 bush, two blue Barry chalIce 2x2, orange encrusted chalice, red montipora, green montipora, pink montipora, red gontipora, jeti mind trick, and Anenome (which isn't a coral I guess?) all frags seem to be very healthy and r growing well
 
If you Mg count is not stable the Ca is falling out of solution and will not be present in the test but is sitting on you sand bed.
Mg roll in your water chemistry is to keep the Ca molecules and the carbonate molecules in solution I.E. floating in your water, until the corals absorb and build there skeleton that is made up of calcium carbonate. What your after here is the coral breaking down the elements not the other way around. you said that you dont have alot of corals, if your using a good quality salt mix and keeping up with your water changes(small weekly) you should not have to dose anything extra. The reason that you pay the extra money for good salt is so you dont have to dose as much supplements.

A higher price does not equal a better salt.
Magnesium does help keep carbonate and calcium in solution; not just calcium. So, it doesn't explain calcium depletion with no alk depletion. What precipitates out bioticly or a bioticly is calcium carbonate at a rate fo 50ppm carbonate alklainity to 20 ppm calcium. Magnesium is used by living organisms;it's not just to increase saturation levels for calcium and carbonate.

If the calcium is depleting and the alk is staying high more alk is coming in from somewhere: the salt mix; the water,supplements, etc. or there is a testing error.
 
I agree that the magnesium level is not the issue here. I probably would get a second opinion on the kits, but there could be a few other sources for alkalinity, artificial live rock being one of them.
 
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