and the setup begins!!

I already know that. But I don't have to have everything branded for it to work right. I will take my chance with those lights. Sorry if that offends some people but I don't have the money for top notch stuff
 
Buying the good stuff now will save alot of money in the long run. Spending an extra 200-300 dollars now will save you spending another 500-600 further down the road.
 
Why? Because your assuming that it will break? well what happens if something goes wrong with the all so powerful branded ones?
 
The cheaper ones that get sold on eBay rarely work well long term and the "all so powerful" reputable lights that work well long term have great customer service from a reputable retailer.
 
Kar brings up a good point. IF you absolutely can't afford the lights now, then you have a choice:

1. Buy cheaper lights now and then possibly have to upgrade and buy the better lights anyways.

2. Don't set the tank up and wait until you have the bare minimum to have a salt water tank. (i.e. Tank, lights, filtration)

3. Set up tank with live rock and sand but don't have lights and just let the tank cycle a REALLY long time until you are ready to make a substantial light purchase.

I didn't buy what I really wanted and am now going back and repurchasing almost everything because of initial costs. If you think it is expensive now, doing it twice costs even more. Just thought I would share from my own experience.

True the cheaper lights may perform a similar job but the only way I know to see how one light performs compared to the other is to use a PAR meter and measure the two. The big difference from eBay and a reputable dealer is the customer service after the fact. If something goes wrong (everything breaks) then the reputable companies have to keep a good image and often will go above and beyond to make sure anything that is broken is fixed quickly and cost free. Drs Foster and Smith have been wonderful to me and are available almost all the time.

I do not intend to be negative or say anyone is doing anything wrong, I just hope my explaination helps convey the message about purchasing a "cheaper" product to get it now as oppossed to waiting a bit and getting better quality products.
 
Tim hits the nail on the head there really. Another option is to buy a cheap T8 or PC fixture for $100-$200 and setup a FOWLR until you can afford to upgrade to a reef. This will give you a chance to save for reactors, proper lighting and a maybe a BK!
 
One benefit of the light that Kar suggested is the lesser hit on the electric bill. 468w vs over 1100w While possibly not the same output that T-5 HO fixture should still be able to support just about any of the critters that the metal halide setup you listed and could and be much more reliable (because its a great fixture from a very reputable brand).
 
i would figure out a way to fit both. i dont have any pictures right now. i dont have anything set up yet besides the tank on the stand.
 
The problem with those would be the lack of individual reflectors. A reflector with each bulb greatly increases PAR available to the critters in the tank.
 
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