Anemone + Radion Pro = Not doing well...

Kurkis493

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Could use and help on this one...

To cover the typical questions that get immediately asked: The only change to my system has been going from MH to LED.

My water parameters are as I expect them to be (I have not tested my water in a couple of days) - I have several thriving SPS colonies that are actually coloring up nicely under the new LED.

I have had a RBTA that was thriving under the 250 MH I had over the Solana tank. The lighting cycle was 10-7pm and the anemone would stay out and expanded the entire length of the cycle.

I also feed this anemone 1/2 a silver side every 3-4 days.

Moving forward - I switched to a Radion Pro about a 5-6 weeks ago. I started my lightning cycle at 10% (standard grow profile from Radion) and gradually increased this to 10, 15 and 20% over a couple of weeks.

During this period of time, the anemone has stopped bubbling all together, it does not ever fully expand and it will retreat back into its house (the RBTA literally lives in a pineapple under the sea). The anemone has also shrunk somewhat in size.

The anemone has not lost any color and if anything has darkened up during this period of time from what it used to be.

Several days ago, I did a search here and found somebody who has the same RBTA and keeping it successfully under the Radion Pro and has been kind enough to share their Radion profile with the community.

My lightning cycle has now changed from a 20% peak to a 55% peak and tank has thus far responded well to the change.

However, my anemone has shown some _small_ improvement but still is not bubbling or expanding and continues to retreat back into its home atleast once a day during the lightning period.

This anemone took a turn for the worse when I switched lighting and I'm unsure if this is something that will eventually rebound? In the past when I turn the lights off the feed the anemone will stay expanded with its stems pointing up towards the light.

Now, when I turn off the flow the tentacles all just drop and it looks like a shaggy wet dog, as if it is too weak to hold itself up...

Is this just a wait it out and hope things get better and it adapts to the light type of thing? For the sake of the anemone I would just as well hand it off to another hobbyist who is still keeping MH lightning than to see it die...
 
Honestly I think ( assuming nothing else has changed) you are at a wait it out stage. I have no experience with radions, but I run AI sol over my sps tank that houses two rbta and from my opinion ( i switched from mh as well) you just need to let him acclimate. Led are a whole new lighting scheme, and they are VERY concentrated "beams" of light, thus the anemone is probably reacting as any animal would when its living conditions are suddenly changed. FWIW my RBTA took some time to adapt to my LED, and they are now monsters who are taking over the sps cube :D GOOD LUCK and let us know what happens.
 
I have read a few others stating that when switching the RBTA stopped bubbling.

I'll have to find those threads and ask the time frame and any updates from them.

Glad it has responded to the higher light.

How long is the 20->55 aclimation? Or is it done already?

Can we get some parameters?

Height of radion above water.
Angle (if any)
Closest rock to surface
depth to lowest substrate

Where are they placed across the tank?

Maybe a FTS would help show it too.

How is it with a silverside? I was a LONG time ago, but I stopped and threw all of mine out after someone had some spoiled ones. Which caused problems with their nem.

Hopefully the greater light will help it out.

How far up are you planning to increase the light?
 
I say silverside are the problem. If you look at a lot of threads you will see the silverside issues is a common thread in a lot of them. I see very little in these threads about lighting being a problem.
 
The anemone is a little over 2ft from the LED and I do not have it positioned directly under the light. Since the anemone is actually attached inside of a Spongebob Pineapple (been this way for years) I can place the anemone anywhere I want in the aquarium.

I did not acclimate from the 20% to the 55% - I have been running the tank this way for 7 days now and the lightning change has been nothing but a positive change even for the anemone...

The got to a point with the LED set to 20% that it looked almost wilted. Over the last couple of days it has shown improvement and no-longer has that "wilted" look to its tentacles however, if it is still not fully expanding.

Perhaps this is a waiting game for me and I will continue to monitor it.

Worm - I originally went to your thread when doing the RC search and eventually stumbled into this thread:

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2287628

I've been feeding from the same pack of silversides for months now and I had not noticed any negative side effects from this. Nothing has changed interms of my husbandry and the only equipment change in this system was from a MH to a Radion Pro.
 
Yeah - I'll give him a few more days to see if I can catch some visual improvements in his condition and then take pictures if not.

Thanks for the help.
 
What size mh were you running,I had a 250 over my 28 and changed to leds.I started the leds off at 70% and still run at that level and my rbta didn't change.
 
Most led companys want you to start of low to protect there image by not hurting your corals.
Did you take any par measurements to try and match the par this would be a big help
 
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Even I posted new pictures...

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I switched from my mh to radion pro about 5 months ago. My 2 bubbles did not immediately adjust but were fine after about 2 days.

I did not go so low as 10%. Maybe 30% for day 1. My lights are 8 inches up and set to a max normal intensity of maybe 75%. I think radion pros put out REALLY powerful light. Even more than their metrics would suggest, and right now I'm scared to go higher. The corals on the very top lightened at a higher setting but are absolutely beautiful when the intensity was reigned in.
 
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