Anyone catch the lobbying info about the proposed harvesting law

[shiveley]

so, can I get a concensus on whether or not the sky is falling, cause this thread's getting too long to keep up with.

 

[mpoletti]

The best lobbyist will win

 

[airinhere]

The sky is falling.

Or at least it keeps getting closer.

It might be that we are hurtling towards it, or it might be that our perception of it changes constanly.

We are proposing to limit any more jumping to keep our personal distance from the sky at safer levels and our best guess is this will help keep us out of danger.

 

[GreshamH]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11869802#post11869802 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefer334
It is a market that does need to be regulated for sure!!
Right now you can have baisically anything out of the ocean you want,bluering octopus,stone fish,dolphins ,killer wales ect....
Why do we need to keep such creatures,we might as well get a king cobra if you buy a bluering octo.
My point is it should be regulated, the amount of fish brought in and the types.
But to stop it all together is ridicoulus!!!!!
Corals on the other hand should be heavily regulated,there to easy to grow them in captivity,unlike most fish.
I do not think hawaii ,is a good example of poor practices,go to Bali Indo and you will see some poor practices like poising and other toxic ways to catch livestock.
If you all saw there holding facilities you would never by a fish from there again.
To me that is were it needs to start is in the 3rd world countries,they need to be heavily scrutinized on there holding facilities and catching practices.This will have the biggest impact on saving are reefs.
But how can we regulate this it is not in our country,we can make laws that only fish coming from proper collection practices and holding facilities are the only ones allowed into the US.
Yes the prices will go up but we will have healthier livestock and a lot less losses in the process which will help the reefs in the long term.
I have been to a lot of wholesalers in LA,even if they are a m ac certified facility they still cannot tell you how the fish were caught or the exact source they came from.This is a problem in my opinnion as they still are probalbly selling poisned fish!!!!
Hawaii and Florida is the least of the problem,most fish taken in those areas are collected in friendly ways.
This is just my 2 cents on this subject.
Chris

Many of the items you listed are heavily regulated under CITES article II and I. You can not buy/sell/posses a killer whale or dolphin here in the US with out many permits. You can not import King Cobras with out a CITES permit. Many places in the US require you to have a permit to keep a king cobra.

The point of MAC fish IS you can trace them from both point of capture and the entire COC. If the facility can not tell the difference they have failled to live up to their end of the certification and under MAC regs should have thier cert. pulled. If it's a MAC fish (certified thru the entire COC) it was collected with a net. Can't be a true MAC fish any other way. Besides the fact extremelly small amounts of MAC fish even enter the COC. The only reason they can't tell you is most likely it's not a MAC fish in the first place.