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In Memoriam
few days ago, I bought a hippo tang and I was promised that it did not have ICH, even though I was skeptical. After 3 days of purchase, it came down with extreme ICH (no other fish in my tank has ever had ICH before) and now it's dead in it's QT.

I tried complaining to the guy who sold it to me (weird dude with a fro and bad BO) but he says no gurantee on saltwaterfish and hangs up on me. Do I have a case here? Should I bother complaining to the manager?
 
You dont have a case really. Usually the guarantee ends in most places the moment you walk out the door. Sorry to hear of your loss.
 
If the salesman who sold you the fish told you that it didnââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t have ich then he gave you an explicit oral warranted that the fish would be free from ich. Such a warrantee can supercede a sign on the wall that says no warrantees. If you can prove that he said the fish didnââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t have ich and you can prove that the fish died of ich then you can sue him for the price of the fish.

Good Luck!
 
How the heck can it matter what the clerk said, if I am the clerk, I will say that it did not have ick at the time of the sale. Every time we move a fish we stress it.
I get tired of people blaming the fish stores. I can see someone getting angry when the store sells them something they don't need or if they assure you Moorish idols are easy to keep. Misinformation by the store is the problem. You state that you asked him if the fish had ick because why, we all know that certain fish like Hippo tangs can be ick magnets.

How many fish would the store sell if they said this one has spots, this one flukes,etc

We continue to buy certain fish knowing the risk (myself included).

Any time a clerk promises you the fish does not ick, its time to go someone else

Andy
 
I bought a Powder Blue Tang recently. Its probably the most notorious for ick and within 2 days of it being in my tank sure enough it has ick. It was perfectly ick free when i took it out of the bag. Thats the chance we take when we buy a fish that like Andy stated is an ick magnet.
 
Some thing like ick is very easy to treat. Obviously you're looking on buying a healthy specimen. Meaning it must eat in the store. Feeding it soaked food w/ vitamin supplements (selcon) and other various nutritional foods, the ich 100% of the time goes away. I've never lost a fish to ich.
 
Yea, I've been trying garlic as well as other supplements. The hippo was in the main tank for about a day, and now my 1yr old neon goby's infested with ICH...

It just bothers me that the guy keeps arguing that the fish had no ICH at all when I bought it. W/e... I guess I need to stay away from tangs for awhile.
 
vsny2k5

were there visible signs of ich before purchase??? you stated that you were sceptical when u bought the fish...so why did you buy it then??? i have purchased a few fish from them and never had a problem but it is up to you the buyer to make sure any fish you buy is up to par. i have learned that if a fish doesnt look alomost perfect then dont buy it, also make sure they eat in the store..
when i purchased my yellow tang from fish town usa it looked great, well within a few days it had ich (now its fine)...a chance i took. best bet is to QT any new fish to prevent disease...sorry about your loss. unfortunately you don't have a case...better luck in the future

if you want to get a tang make sure you have a couple of cleaner shrimp or a cleaner wrasse that will help with any possible ich out breaks...they helped to clean my tang:)

just my 2cents
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7159257#post7159257 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by aaron23
Some thing like ick is very easy to treat. Obviously you're looking on buying a healthy specimen. Meaning it must eat in the store. Feeding it soaked food w/ vitamin supplements (selcon) and other various nutritional foods, the ich 100% of the time goes away. I've never lost a fish to ich.



That's a bit optomistic, Aaron.
I agree that the best line of defense against ICH is a healthy immune system. Feeding foods soaked in Selcon gives the fish much needed vitamins. Garlic may/may not be helpfull. However, there just is no 100% guarantee.
 
I agree that the buyer should be ware and that fish stores have a right to disclaim any warrantees, however, in the law there is a concept called an express warrantee. The idea is simply, if a sales person makes a claim about that product that salesman is warranteeing that the product is as-described. If a buyer relies on that description then the buyer has a right to a product that is as-described.

For example, if you are in a used car lot and the dealer tells you that a car has only 50,000 miles on it, but you later find out that it has 150,000 miles, you will be entitled to be compensated for the difference in value between the car with 150,000 miles on it and a car with 50,000 miles on it. It does not matter that the dealership has a sign that says ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œall sales are finalââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ or that the buyer didnââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t bother to look at the odometer.

The relevant law here is Article 2 of the U.C.C.

Obviously we all believe that the buyer who does not take the time to do the right research should not be protected from his own ignorance, but at the same time, sales people should not be allowed to lie to a customer to make the sale. However, as a practical matter, anyone who has ever shopped at a big-box electronics store knows that sales people make stuff up, usually out of ignorance. Just the other day a salesman was trying to tell me that hooking up an ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œHD readyââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ antenna to a normal TV would allow that TV to tune in HD reception just like an HD TV tuner, however, the tuner would get better reception. The good thing about the electronics store is that if the product is not as-described, you are entitled to return it. Many LFS have sales people that are just as clueless as the electronics stores. It is better to take the time to learn how to identify a healthy fish, because in the end, if you went to that LFS and said that the guy said the fish didnââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t have ich, he would tell you he only said he thought the fish didnââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t have ich or he would say that you donââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t know for a fact that the fish died of ich. And in the end you would have to prove he said what he said and then provide the autopsy report that lists cause of death as ich.
 
Ask to speak to Vinny. Hes the saltwater guy and an awesome person. Joe usually does freshwater and brackish, so its not really his dept.

Anyway, ask for Vinny and tell him.
 
There were two other tangs in there, and they were scratching themselves against things... that's why I was being skeptical. I watched the tank for about half an hour and there was one tang that didn't show any symptoms and decided to take the chance. I guess I was wrong. The hippo I purchased was eating very well when it was in my tank. It was swimming around, eating well and etc... I decided to move it to a QT so it wouldn't spread it's ICH...I guess I was too late. Now my neon blue goby and my flame angel is dead. This has got to be my worst purchase ever.

I know who you are talking about... but from what I remember of Vinny, I don't think he will give much Profanity removed about this. He wasn't very nice, at least from what I can remember whenever I was there.
 
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Dont underestimate the ability for LIRA members to have fish autopsies done in the case of questionable deaths ... its been done before...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7163201#post7163201 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by vsny2k5
There were two other tangs in there, and they were scratching themselves against things... that's why I was being skeptical. I watched the tank for about half an hour and there was one tang that didn't show any symptoms and decided to take the chance. I guess I was wrong. The hippo I purchased was eating very well when it was in my tank. It was swimming around, eating well and etc... I decided to move it to a QT so it wouldn't spread it's ICH...I guess I was too late. Now my neon blue goby and my flame angel is dead. This has got to be my worst purchase ever.

I know who you are talking about... but from what I remember of Vinny, I don't think he will give much Profanity removed about this. He wasn't very nice, at least from what I can remember whenever I was there.






Vince,
RC uses profanity filters for a reason, please do not attempt to evade them in the future.
-Larry
 
Sorry about that Larry.

How's the anthias doing btw? I bought the hippo after our transaction. I knew I should've went straight home afterwards... :rolleyes:
 
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He's doing well ;)
As you said, he eats just about anything I feed to my tank. Even goes after the greens.
 
The fish was clean when you bought it and even eating flakes. We still have one from the same batch that's perfect. Anyone in doubt can come see it. You called up to complain 5 days after you bought the fish. No one guarantees saltwater fish any more and especially not after 5 days. I told you the fish looked clean I did not say that I guaranteed it was healthy. I tried to explain to you on the phone that tangs are prone to ick but you wouldn't listen. I'm sorry I hung up on you but after telling you the same thing 5 times I got frustrated. I normally ask people who buy tangs how long their tank has been setup and if they have a UV sterilizer. I recommend waiting at least 4 months b4 adding a tang to a tank that doesn't have a UV sterilizer. Since you did spend a long time looking at the fish I assumed you knew what were doing. I'm sorry I made an incorrect assumption. We do our best not to sell any unhealthy fish. We don't sell anything that doesn't eat frozen and we keep fish for at least 2 days b4 we sell them. In an average week I talk at least 5 people out of buying fish that I feel there tanks aren't ready for. We have many customers who work at other stores who regularly buy fish from us.

Sorry the tang died, Joe
 
Hey Joe, thanks for sharing your side of the matter on the forum. I know it's pointless to argue about the tang's health before or after it left your store but seeing that my tank was ICH free ever since it was set up, and none of my other fish has had ICH before the tang was introduced...and also, since the other tangs in the same holding tank seemed to have ICH, it bothers me that you are still arguing about this. I've had mostly good results with fish & corals that came from your store. I am simply disgruntled about the tang, the way you assured me that it did not have ICH, the way it turned UP with ICH 2 or 3 days after, then soon dying, after spreading it to two of my fish. I also don't understand why you are putting words in my mouth... As far as I can remember, the phone conversation mostly was about me explaining my situation, asking for your help or something that we can work out, since I drop about 80 ~ 100 every time I visit your store(which is AT LEAST 4 or 5 times a month), and you going "mm-hmm" consistently, freaking out after realizing that you cannot handle the call, shift the responsibility onto your manager, and hanging up on me. Why couldn't you say all these beautiful words of yours on the phone before hanging up? I called after 5 days, but I assure you the ICH appeared beforehand. Regardless of how many hours and days it took me to pick up the phone just to be hung up on, I guess I was looking for some customer service since I've been visiting your store for more than four or five years now.

I simply don't think you are an honest guy Joe. I hardly doubt that you care at all about the customers. You looked me in the eyes, repeately told me that the tang did not have ICH, my tank was introduced to ICH afterwards, the tang came up with ICH afterwards, making me lose 3 fish in total. It's either that you were lying, or you are ignorant. either way, let's just say that I put my trust in the wrong person. I did not start this thread to argue wether or not the tang had ICH or not because now I know that it definitely did. I took the risk, especially with a tang but mostly my problem was with bad customer service, entirely from you and lack of loyalty MegaPets have shown towards me, represented through you. I promise you that I won't be driving out 35 minutes anymore.

Oh yea, Joe. I do have an UV. :) You should know that it doesn't cure nor completely prevent ICH...but I guess you don't know that since you are not the "saltwater specialist" as you kept repeating on the phone to me while trying to save your own ***. Hope you do come back to this thread and share what else you "forgot" to say before you hung up on me.
 
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