anyone tried to using Jebo WP40?

[SimonSKL]

I have a question to those who have RA controlling this pump or plan to control this pump to help me decide which RA controller I should get. I am pretty sure RA+ is what I want but not sure about which dimming option to choose.

Now that we know the pump can be controlled by 0-5V analog signals, should I get the RA + with PWM dimming signal or RA+ with analog dimming signal. I thought analog dimming is an "older" technology but the controller with analog dimming is $20 more than the one with PWM dimming! Same thing for the dimming expansion modules: analog costs more than PWM. Any suggestion or comment?

 

[ashish]

I am ordering 1 today because despite wanting to buy a tunze!! I can buy 4 of these and have back-ups if they break lol

 

[bhazard451]

I ordered 2 wp40s and came home this morning and found only 1 had been delivered. It had 2 different addresses on it. One to a guy in California and another with my address in Indiana. On my address it also had the name of the guy from the California adress.
The tracking ID was different then what I was given in my confirmation email.

I just emailed fish-street and also filled out a contact form on their web site. I included a picture of the package i had with the 2 addresses. I guess I'll be finding out how their customer service is.

I just had an unrelated shipment from another company get screwed up originating from California. Do they need more taxes to do a worse job over the rest of the country?

 

[Lostinthedark]

I just received a reply from them about my late shipping from the 6th. The pumps shipped yesterday but they are overwhelmed and are not caught up on shipping notices. Looks like this may put a dent in Tunze and Vortech sales.

 

[ashish]

I have a 120 gallon tank, 48" long 24" wide. 25" high

Should I order one or two of these?

Or should I order the 25's when they come out to go with the 40 ?

I have asked the same question as I wanted to add 2 of wp-40. I was told it might be to powerful unless variable power supply is lowered. I just ordered 1 today and plan on using it on one side as well as having my hydor mag (3200gph) on a timer for random surge.

 

[treetopflyn]

I have asked the same question as I wanted to add 2 of wp-40. I was told it might be to powerful unless variable power supply is lowered. I just ordered 1 today and plan on using it on one side as well as having my hydor mag (3200gph) on a timer for random surge.

I think I finally have mine dialed in. This is on W1 at 16V. I still have the Korilla in there (It's NOT on in the video) since I am still playing with an alternating flow occasionally due to a "wind swept" look of some corals. The way I have mine set up it comes across the back of the tank hit the side, comes around the corner and sweeps back across the front of the tank making a complete circle. As you can see even the corals and algae at the "end" of the flow are still moving around.

Remember now this is ONE pump on a 48" 105 gallon tank cranked WAY down. I would guess about 50% of it's possible fury.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUBz4saJomk&feature=youtu.be

 

[Chas]

I have a question to those who have RA controlling this pump or plan to control this pump to help me decide which RA controller I should get. I am pretty sure RA+ is what I want but not sure about which dimming option to choose.

Now that we know the pump can be controlled by 0-5V analog signals, should I get the RA + with PWM dimming signal or RA+ with analog dimming signal. I thought analog dimming is an "older" technology but the controller with analog dimming is $20 more than the one with PWM dimming! Same thing for the dimming expansion modules: analog costs more than PWM. Any suggestion or comment?

Simon - What else do you plan on controlling with the RA? I would go with the RA+ for sure. I have the PWM version of the RA+ and if I get a dimming module to control pumps I will get PWM as well. I believe Roberto will be including the low pass filter in the harness so it can run on either Analog or PWM. So it really depends on what else you want to control.

~Charlie

 

[ashish]

I have decided after fighting with my 4, four week old Koralia 3250's running on a Smartwave, that the non starting, clunking, and overall poor performance of these units has prompted me to just give up and return them for a refund. I have spent the last four weeks emailing back and forth with Hydor only to eventually be told send the units back to them. They do flow a ton of water, but only one of the 4 units actually starts up without issue, the other 3 units clunk three times, and just shut down 80% of the time; very disappointing to say the least. Fortunately for me, the online retailer I purchased them from offers a 60 day return policy, which I intend to make use of this week.

This is my dream tank build, and although these units were only intended to be a short term solution until I could replenish my build funds for something with more bells and whistles, they have just proved to be a complete and utter waste of time"¦ I have always had good luck with the smaller Koralia's in the past, but obviously these big boys are a different animal"¦

I just finished reading this thread in its entirety and I must say, these units sound impressive. This thread has prompted me to go ahead and pull the trigger and place an order. But like many others, I would like some input from those that are already running these units as to how many you might recommend for my tank. This tank has been up and running for less than a month, and will be a fowlr tank for a while, that will gradually become a reef tank down the road as a lighting upgrades are made.

The tank is approximately 320 gallons; the dimensions are 96" L x 30" W x 26" H.

I am thinking two of the WP-40's might be enough for an 8ft tank after watching some of the videos, but perhaps three of them might leave no doubts in the flow department; or would it be overkill? I know when I took the Koralia 3250's off the Smartwave and actually got them to all come on at once, it was a ridiculous amount of flow.

Not sure, 2 or 3, what say you?

This is just my opinion.... I have bought 3 hydor koralias in the past 6 years and 1 has failed by going in reverse; the other 2 have been fine especially the magnum (3200gph). The WP-40 performance is amazing but its to soon to say if it will last more than 1 year or so without problems. Therefore, I ordered 1 and plan on using hydro (3200gph) during the day on a timer - and have the Wp-40 on pulse. That way at least all my marbles are not placed on a new products as I do leave my tank often. There cheap enough you can take a loss but this is for your corals sake.

I am still not sold on there product because I am sure they will encounter at least 5 issues that will later be "new and improved"; like every other company known to man. In a tank of your size with them dimensions 2 WP-40 would be ideal (for starters). Use 2 korlias on the back glass for safety. This will create a great amount of random turbulence (when the jebos hit the hydor's).

 

[NyteGTI]

Just got shipping confirmation on mine!


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me too !
ordered march 9th

me too! ordered March 6th.

 

[SimonSKL]

Simon - What else do you plan on controlling with the RA? I would go with the RA+ for sure. I have the PWM version of the RA+ and if I get a dimming module to control pumps I will get PWM as well. I believe Roberto will be including the low pass filter in the harness so it can run on either Analog or PWM. So it really depends on what else you want to control.

~Charlie

Right now I am using a RKE to control return pump, protein skimmer, PH, temp, 3 dosing pumps, heater, ATO, two WP40s as timer, Maxspect G2 LED as timer, DIY LED as timer, and an autofeeder.

What I would like the RA controller to do, in addition to the above, is to control my DIY LED to have sunrise and sundown effects. The DIY LED is driven by two Meanwell "D" drivers. Also to control the two WP40s to have random flows, synchronized or unsynchronized, as we discussed on this thread.

So should I still go with the PWM dimming version for the controller? It looks like I also will have to get the Expansion Hub, the Relay Expansion, and a Dimming Expansion (either PWM or analog) in order to handle all these. All these equipment add up to some significant dollars, more than what I paid for the RKE.

 

[Chas]

What I would like the RA controller to do, in addition to the above, is to control my DIY LED to have sunrise and sundown effects. The DIY LED is driven by two Meanwell "D" drivers. Also to control the two WP40s to have random flows, synchronized or unsynchronized, as we discussed on this thread.

So should I still go with the PWM dimming version for the controller? It looks like I also will have to get the Expansion Hub, the Relay Expansion, and a Dimming Expansion (either PWM or analog) in order to handle all these. All these equipment add up to some significant dollars, more than what I paid for the RKE.

If I'm not mistaken the "D" drivers are analog, correct? I would get the PWM version of the RA+, a Relay Expansion Module (sounds like you need more than the 8 outlets included with the unit), the Analog Dimming Module, and an Expansion Hub. You might also want to pick up an extra temp probe or two along with the extension(s) if you think you will need them. If you only want to monitor the tank temp the included temp probe is all you need.

I went with the additional temp probes because I wanted to monitor my canopy and stand so I can control fans to cool as needed.

~Charlie

 

[Tickyty]

Right now I am using a RKE to control return pump, protein skimmer, PH, temp, 3 dosing pumps, heater, ATO, two WP40s as timer, Maxspect G2 LED as timer, DIY LED as timer, and an autofeeder.

What I would like the RA controller to do, in addition to the above, is to control my DIY LED to have sunrise and sundown effects. The DIY LED is driven by two Meanwell "D" drivers. Also to control the two WP40s to have random flows, synchronized or unsynchronized, as we discussed on this thread.

So should I still go with the PWM dimming version for the controller? It looks like I also will have to get the Expansion Hub, the Relay Expansion, and a Dimming Expansion (either PWM or analog) in order to handle all these. All these equipment add up to some significant dollars, more than what I paid for the RKE.

I too will need to purchase more than the base unit and now it is getting into the price range of a full apex. This is going to be a tough decision.:crazy1:

 

[SeedlessOne]

I too will need to purchase more than the base unit and now it is getting into the price range of a full apex. This is going to be a tough decision.:crazy1:

IMO not at all. The possibilities with the reefangel are just about endless. With the apex you still tied down. Just look at what Roberto and reefangel did in a week with the jebo. Do you see any other companies doing anything? Nope and they won't pick up support for things like this either.

 

[treetopflyn]

IMO not at all. The possibilities with the reefangel are just about endless. With the apex you still tied down. Just look at what Roberto and reefangel did in a week with the jebo. Do you see any other companies doing anything? Nope and they won't pick up support for things like this either.

Yep that's the reason I have RA

 

[Tickyty]

I initially heard about RA 6 months ago and did not do much research on them. Just knew that you could get into a controller for a lot less. But to compare apples to apples the RA is not substantially cheaper like the WP40 is compared to the MP40. The big difference is in flexibility of programming and support. I don't have a ton of things I am trying to do with my set up so the open sourcing is enticing but not as necesarry as some of the others here. Roberto's response is nothing less than impressive in today's market.

 

[dartier]

Hardware cost wise, the RA works out about the same as the other controllers when purchased from Reefangel.

Where it excells is in freedom. Although the hardware costs from RA still add up, you have the freedom to alter the programming to your specific needs which can be quite liberating. For those who want to take baby steps on the software side, RA has a wizard that will allow you to generate custom configurations, without knowing how to program.

On the otherhand, if you are handy with a soldering iron, or just enjoy DIY, then the RA really, really excells. When you use the openness of the RA to add your own custom peripherals, substantial savings can be had. For instance I am currently adding 32 PWM channels, 32 GPIO channels, 4 ADC channels,4 water level meters and 2 DAC channels using Adafruit breakout boards and discrete components.

So either way, you can use turn key solutions from RA (both hardware and software), or you can go off on your own and add whatever you want if that is your thing.

Dennis

 

[treetopflyn]

Hardware cost wise, the RA works out about the same as the other controllers when purchased from Reefangel.

Really, you think so? I found it to be less expensive when I bought mine.

 

[bhazard451]

Really, you think so? I found it to be less expensive when I bought mine.

Once you start adding the wifi module, dimming module for leds, probes, etc etc it ends up costing the same.

I'm in a tough spot, because since I already have an apex and an ATO made for it, I would have needed a significant reason to change over to a RA. Once multiple modes are programmed from these pumps, with control in switching between the modes, I may have that reason.

I'm hoping more Apex peoples can start making some profiles I can use. Most of the Tunze profiles out there don't seem to take advantage of what this pump can do.

 

[Chas]

bhazard451 - You can always sell off your Apex, no? I don't know how they hold their value.

When I was looking for a controller I spent a lot of time comparing features and cost. I ultimately went with the RA because I have programming experience and because of the flexibility. I would say that the RA is not for everyone out there but the support you get from RA is top notch.

~Charlie

 

[serpent]

Does anyone know of a more reasonably priced PWM other that what is on ebay? That price for the board is a bit high.