ATI Powermodule Hybrid Club

[adamwheel]

At 10:30 it abruptly shuts off straight to zero on the LEDs. The T5s aren't dimmable on my model, so they aren't on at that point.

Again, the schedule has them slowly dimming until midnight and works fine in Day Preview.

I do have the clock set correctly and the schedule is set for 4 LED banks.

I'm going to try writing an entirely new schedule tonight and loading it to the lamp. I just don't understand how the schedule can be fine in day preview but then somehow corrupted when running within the lamp.

Any help would be appreciated.

Adam

 

[sahin]

At 10:30 it abruptly shuts off straight to zero on the LEDs. The T5s aren't dimmable on my model, so they aren't on at that point.

Again, the schedule has them slowly dimming until midnight and works fine in Day Preview.

I do have the clock set correctly and the schedule is set for 4 LED banks.

I'm going to try writing an entirely new schedule tonight and loading it to the lamp. I just don't understand how the schedule can be fine in day preview but then somehow corrupted when running within the lamp.

Any help would be appreciated.

Adam

Hi Adam,

I've sent you a PM with my email. Can you send over your schedule to? I will take a look and see if there is anything wrong with it.

When you email me, can you also let me know how many LED clusters are on your unit. Im not sure if its 4 or 5 on the 60" fixture.

 

[Christian J]

The T5s aren't dimmable on my model

Speaking of which (and sorry for the quote-hijack!), does ATI use any numbering system to tell various upgrades apart? Knowing this might be useful when ordering from online stores, so we don't get sent older models than expected.

Also, how many upgrades are there in the first place? So far I recall reading about:

* dimmable T5 option added

* white(?) LEDs changed to multi-color

* color composition of LEDs changed more than once?

* reinforcement for sagging acrylic screen added

 

[sahin]

Speaking of which (and sorry for the quote-hijack!), does ATI use any numbering system to tell various upgrades apart? Knowing this might be useful when ordering from online stores, so we don't get sent older models than expected.

Also, how many upgrades are there in the first place? So far I recall reading about:

* dimmable T5 option added

* white(?) LEDs changed to multi-color

* color composition of LEDs changed more than once?

* reinforcement for sagging acrylic screen added

These are not upgrades, but rather specification improvements. Model numbers are the same.

* dimmable T5 option added - Incorrect. All units (except for the 80w USA (110volt fixtures)) come with dimmable T5's. This was never an option

* white(?) LEDs changed to multi-color - Apart from the change of Royal Blue and White diodes to the quad chip Luxeon M's no changes. So again, only minor change.

* color composition of LEDs changed more than once? - As far as I know ATI always had Red, Blue, Royal Blue and White (6500K) diodes.
The original R33FBUILDERS article reported green diodes etc, which was incorrect. I know of no colour changes.

* reinforcement for sagging acrylic screen added - Only a slight design improvement. Not an upgrade.

Therefore, only small improvements in design etc. The ONLY reason we know that the Royal Blue and White LED's were changed is because you can physically see that they are different as it is a multi-diode chip.

You will not be able to ask your supplier to get you a "newer" model because there is no newer model numbers. Its down to luck what you get. Hope that makes sense.

Other manufacturers are doing the same thing and will source different bins/newer more efficient diodes, but people havent got a clue because the newer diodes look the same outwardly. No manufacturer supplies the BIN numbers etc and but they do change to a newer diode if a newer cheaper/more efficient diode is available.

I know that because my buddy has 2 Radion Pro's (one bought earlier than other) and the Blue LED's look a slightly different shade of blue.

I know of another UK reefer who's Radion Gen2 had two different shades of Royal Blue on the two pucks on the same unit! Most likely due to one of the pucks being from a different bin/newer diodes.

 

[wheelman76]

At some point they "changed" the LEDs correct?
Was it the whole module that was changed? And can you tell by looking at the fixture?
I remember reading that with the new LEDs you will be able to change them out in the future for newer upgrades. But with the older LEDs that came with the fixtures that were first released , you will not be able to upgrade them.

 

[sahin]

At some point they "changed" the LEDs correct?
Was it the whole module that was changed? And can you tell by looking at the fixture?
I remember reading that with the new LEDs you will be able to change them out in the future for newer upgrades. But with the older LEDs that came with the fixtures that were first released , you will not be able to upgrade them.

Yes. At some point they changed to the Luxeon M diodes. Not sure when though. Whereas all previous diodes were single LED's, the Luxeon M's are 4 diodes on one chip set in a square configuration. So the Cluster definitely looks different. Look back a few pages, someone posted photos I remember.

As for whether the older clusters can be changed out or not, I dont know. Maybe drop ATI an email?

 

[wheelman76]

Yes. At some point they changed to the Luxeon M diodes. Not sure when though. Whereas all previous diodes were single LED's, the Luxeon M's are 4 diodes on one chip set in a square configuration. So the Cluster definitely looks different. Look back a few pages, someone posted photos I remember.

As for whether the older clusters can be changed out or not, I dont know. Maybe drop ATI an email?

Thanks Sahin , I'll look back a few pages for the photos.

 

[whispers]

I got my light Monday easy setup thanks to sahin's set up video..but how do I turn on my lights on before the schedule turns on. my lights come on at 11:00am if I wanted to turn them on manually let's say at 10:00am just to see in the tank how do I do that with out my laptop is there a way on the controller with out messing up my already programmed times and intensities?

 

[rtparty]

I got my light Monday easy setup thanks to sahin's set up video..but how do I turn on my lights on before the schedule turns on. my lights come on at 11:00am if I wanted to turn them on manually let's say at 10:00am just to see in the tank how do I do that with out my laptop is there a way on the controller with out messing up my already programmed times and intensities?

I'm 99% sure there is not a way to do that. At least I can't think of a way.

 

[sahin]

I got my light Monday easy setup thanks to sahin's set up video..but how do I turn on my lights on before the schedule turns on. my lights come on at 11:00am if I wanted to turn them on manually let's say at 10:00am just to see in the tank how do I do that with out my laptop is there a way on the controller with out messing up my already programmed times and intensities?

Ryan is correct, there isn't. I wish this was a feature though.

Just like you, I sometime have the need to switch the light on before or after the light hours eg to feed early to take come photos etc.

The easiest and quickest way is to simply change the time on the clock. Its like a few button presses, but does the job. Once finished just change the time back.

Rather than the pretty much useless demo mode, I wish ATI had instead programmed this feature which switches off say after 30 mins.

The other way is if you have the controller connected to your laptop via USB most of the time, then simply load the software and slide the mode into COLOUR PREVIEW.

Easiest way is just to change the clock timer. :lol:

 

[Rpogge2]

My 4 bulb has 3 blue plus and 1 coral plus. I'd never run 2 purple plus on a 4 bulb setup.

I just ordered a 48" 4 bulb, getting ready to order some T5's for it.
Is there no benefit to running an atinic also?
like 2 B+, 1C+, 1 true atinc ?
or do you find the LEDs and the blue+ bulbs give off enough of that spectrum to get good florescence?

I am coming from a MH + T5 14k , 2B+ 2 Atinic, had never really tried any different combos.

 

[Rpogge2]

double post

 

[Lubeck]

I run

B
A
LEDs
P
B

I may change my purple to coral plus to see if I see any color/ growth change But am very happy with the combo above too

 

[adamwheel]

Ryan,

Sorry. I just noticed your reply to me. The LEDs are ramping up correctly in the morning but at sunset, they abruptly shut off around 7%. It doesn't matter which schedule I run, that percentage seems to be the number. The display reads zero for all colors at that point even though the schedule says otherwise.

The schedules were all working a couple weeks ago, so I know they were written correctly.

I contacted ATI N. America yesterday and they will be looking at my schedule today and getting back with me.

I'll post back with any resolution. I love the light and just want it working properly.

Cheers,

Adam

 

[blakeorme]

Ryan is correct, there isn't. I wish this was a feature though.

Just like you, I sometime have the need to switch the light on before or after the light hours eg to feed early to take come photos etc.

The easiest and quickest way is to simply change the time on the clock. Its like a few button presses, but does the job. Once finished just change the time back.

Rather than the pretty much useless demo mode, I wish ATI had instead programmed this feature which switches off say after 30 mins.

The other way is if you have the controller connected to your laptop via USB most of the time, then simply load the software and slide the mode into COLOUR PREVIEW.

Easiest way is just to change the clock timer. :lol:

Agree with this %100. I had a similar issue when battling a nuisance algae, and wanted a lights/low light period for a few days. I found it easier to change the clock to repeat the night lighting schedule than fiddle with my lighting schedule. I would set it to 8pm each morning and evening so some lights were on to view the tank.

 

[whispers]

I guess I will turn back the clock thanks .I run front to back blue+coral+LEDs purple+blue+ And I love the color I get. I will post my light schedule later so you guys can help me tweak it a bit

 

[MrBB8]

Hi,

Just wondering i would be able to get some advise.

My tank size is 4ft long x 2.5ft deep x 2ft wide.

I was looking at 3 options:

1) 36" 2x75W LED & 4x39W T5 LED-Powermodule
2) 36" 2x75W LED & 8x39W T5 LED-Powermodule
3) 48" 3x75W LED & 4x54W T5 LED-Powermodule

Please advise what the better option would be.

 

[ReefRockerLive]

If your tank is mainly Acropora, my vote goes to the 48 inch fixture with the 4 bulbs.

 

[MrBB8]

Thanks for the prompt response. It will be mixed reef for awhile... but looking at heading towards sps in near future.

 

[rtparty]

Option 3 for sure and you may need the 8 bulb for heavy SPS.