Bangaiis- your thoughts
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ThRoewer
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I think catching them at Banggai, their natural habitat, should be limited to broodstock for breeders.
But by now they have become an invasive species at Lembeh Strait - I see no issues catching wild ones for the aquarium trade there.
There they are actually not much better than the lionfish in the Caribbean, and nobody feels those need protection.
But by now they have become an invasive species at Lembeh Strait - I see no issues catching wild ones for the aquarium trade there.
There they are actually not much better than the lionfish in the Caribbean, and nobody feels those need protection.
Lilbitreefer
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unfortunately if water parameters are not good and there are just too many predators then they will not survive. It is the loss of habitat through the destruction of reefs and pollution that screws up the water quality. The juvenile bangaiis are not making it to adulthood to further grow the population. Thus reducing their wild populations. They are able to proliferate a tank because there are no predators and water quality is pretty good.
It is one of the reasons many people hate the hog farms here in NC because they are polluting the river systems where many of our tasty fish come to breed. poor breeding grounds leads to fewer offspring and even fewer fish to hunt. This applies to all fish whether they are ornamental for our tanks of food to survive.
It is one of the reasons many people hate the hog farms here in NC because they are polluting the river systems where many of our tasty fish come to breed. poor breeding grounds leads to fewer offspring and even fewer fish to hunt. This applies to all fish whether they are ornamental for our tanks of food to survive.
linkedsilas
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As said above, there is a big difference in animals that are bred in captivity and ones that are wild. I have no experience with fish, but I work with red wolves. Genetics can play a big part too
sde1500
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Incredibly short sighted comment. Just consider the overwhelming amount of variables that go into them breeding and surviving in the wild compared to a tank. For starters predators, pollution, habitat destruction.
CritterHeaven
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Until the demand for wild caught ends, the supply will continue. We as buyers support the collection and sale of these endangered fish. Buy tank bred.
ForeverNoob
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I am getting back into the hobby and will be ready to stock my tank in a couple months. This will definitely stop me from purchasing this breed of fish from my lfs unless I can get a guarantee that they were captive bred.
Reef Frog
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Captive bred fish have a higher survival rate then wild collected fish. Certain precautions concerning disease & parasites can be employed in a properly run hatchery as well.
So if concern over the natural environment doesn't sway somebody towards captive raised fish, perhaps their own self interest in not wasting money on fish that are destined to die in their home tanks will persuade more people about the benefits of captive bred fish. But I think the typical aquarium keeper is oblivious to these facts.
So if concern over the natural environment doesn't sway somebody towards captive raised fish, perhaps their own self interest in not wasting money on fish that are destined to die in their home tanks will persuade more people about the benefits of captive bred fish. But I think the typical aquarium keeper is oblivious to these facts.
EthanHawaii
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I've been looking for these guys for a while and my LFS says that they get them in frequently, but he also said lately about 50% of them end up dying due to them being so small. They are coming from quality marine so you would expect that they would not be selling dying or sick fish! Oh and they are all aquacultured.
Burtonboy182
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I too had no idea. I have 2 and they spawn all the time. A buddy of mine has raised like 30 babies already and traded them to fellow reefers. If I could get mine out I would definitely try and raise them
Tfrawley
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Fishfirst
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That isn't on QM... That is on your lfs... Likely they are not feeding them correctly or enoufh
SNAKEMANVET
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I have seperated my pairs for now while I upgrade to a bigger tank.I have sold a lot of young bangaiis to fellow reefers and Lfs.I keep them until they are 4 months old to be sure they are ready to catch and move.I have had up to three different broods going at the same time.
Radioheadx14
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Not a bad idea. I bred a captive grown pair and a lot of the babies had weird deformed gills. they seemed healthy and grew just fine... but their gill flaps were flared open.
There's only so much that can be harvested before causing significant disturbance that could result in the destruction of wild populations....these fish are facing extinction in their natural habitat because of over fishing.
