BB 10 months in

only the rear part is BB, right??

Correct but keep in mind the small ribble zone is just that,small.
The main rock structure is built on open acrylic boxes I made. So it's hollow underneath. So will some debris is trapped under the rubble it is not nearly as much as I would have thought. I got lucky on my flow patterns and the yoemans share collect is the rear out in the open.
 
nbd13 said:
quick question for you, BTW very nice tank!

how do those anthias and fairy wrasses get along?

i have 5 fairy wrasse my self and would like to add a group of 5 bartletts anthias to my system.

any thoughts or tips? the fairy wrasses will be in the system first.

thanks!

Nick


Interesting that you bring this up. I was just talking about the Bartletts in my tank tonight (specifically the male.) It seems he is harassing some of the other fish to a certain degree( The smaller Fairy wrasses and Flashers.) I was looking at what appear to be bite marks and mouth shaped abrasions on some of the fish and while we almost never witness any outright contact he does get a bug up his *** and goes tearing after another fish from time to time. I'm assuming he is the cause of it all. We'll see.
 
Thanks to all for the compliments.
As to TOTM there are so many beautiful tanks on RC that choosing a TOTM would be difficult for the parties involved.
I appreciate the thoughts but I think that my tank is in its infancy and will need a few years to prove itself.

Thanks again.
 
Thanks Dave, now you make me want to rethink this,

are there any other anthias that are less agressive than the bartletts? maybe lyterial?

thanks!

Nick
 
poknsnok said:
dave, do you have starboard or any avalanche protection on that beautiful box of water?


No and let's hope that doesn't become a problem. I was very careful with any rock that could fall and hit the bottom. There is not a single piece that is positioned in a precarious manor. I made sure it was very stable and used cable ties where they were needed. The bottom is 3/4" thick and the tank bottom rests on a sheet of Styrofoam. The trim doesn't actually touch the stand. This way the weight of the tank is being supported by almost the entire bottom instead of just the perimeter.
 
nbd13 said:
Thanks Dave, now you make me want to rethink this,

are there any other anthias that are less aggressive than the bartletts? maybe lyterial?

thanks!

Nick

After watching the fish for a while ( something I don't get to do as much as if it were at home) I'm not so sure the Male Bartletts is the problem. I was trying to trap the male anthias and while a lot of the other fish where going into the trap I noticed my Bluestreak cleaner taking the opportunity to do some unsolicited "cleaning" while the fish where jammed up in the trap. I noticed that it would strike the fish in the areas that I'm noticing the marks. So I removed it along with the Yellow 'Coris' wrasse ( it has grown really fast and was not so nice to a Potters Leopard wrasse the I introduced today.) I'm still going to catch the male anthias because I have two males in the tank and it's not big enough for both of them. I've also noticed the males are more aggressive when they have a harem of females as opposed to being kept alone.
 
Thanks Dave,

if you dont mind me asking, you said you had another type of anthias,

are they less agressive in general? or are they about the same as the Bartletts?

thanks!

Nick
 
So Dave, do you just have them trained to jump out on command;)? Sounds like you have an efficient fish catching plan. The ole shrimp tied to a string and dangled over a net worked on a Koran Angel years ago, but took weeks to coax.
 
Dave, are you sure you need to remove one of the male Bartlett's? I actually have 3 males in my tank. I started with 10 females. One turned to a male. Over an 8 month period 2 females went mia and another wasted away although it was eating fine. Then the male took a hit for no reason and I found him dead one morning. After this, 3 females started morphing to males. 2 finished and the other stopped about 3/4ths the way into it. So now I have 2 supers and a sub. One super owns the left side of the tank and the other owns the right side. They lock jaws on occasion but never try to hurt each other. They share the remaining females. The sub stays hidden most of the time even though I never see it getting picked on. Just wanted to share my experience with multiple males being ok.
 
The dominant male runs the tank and the harem and while he has caused no physical damage to the other male he doesn't allow it much space. It'd be like you having to live in the closet.

As to how I catch 'em ,I use the fish trap from AB. The yellow 'coris' was caught be removing the tub of sand after lights out and catching it outside the tank.
 
nbd13 said:
Thanks Dave,

if you dont mind me asking, you said you had another type of anthias,

are they less agressive in general? or are they about the same as the Bartletts?

thanks!

Nick

P. smithvanizi is the other one you are referring to. Much less aggressive and a bit harder to keep and get. I'm not into the anthias group so I don't have much info for you off the cuff but you might think about getting Reef Fishes Vol1 by Scott Michael.You might think about the Dispar it's a bit harder to keep but not as aggressive IMO. If you get some from an area where Bartletts are more abundant they frequently mimic the Bartletts in coloration Though I don't know if that persists once they are on their own.

Not the best but here is a picture which does the fish no justice as they are very pretty. It's known as the Princess anthias.

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It's nice to see someone putting the 'wrasse sandbox' to use. I thought of doing this a while back when I first considered switching to BB, but questioned if it would work.

Were you able to set it up so that it can be easily removed?

What's the size of the container you used and how much sand did you put in it?

Beautiful tank by the way. :)

Vin
 
vmiller said:
It's nice to see someone putting the 'wrasse sandbox' to use. I thought of doing this a while back when I first considered switching to BB, but questioned if it would work.

Were you able to set it up so that it can be easily removed?

What's the size of the container you used and how much sand did you put in it?

Beautiful tank by the way. :)

Vin

Yes, I can pull it out and clean when needed.

It's about a 14" by 8" with about 4" of sand.
 
Dave,

I hope that you don't mind, but I'd like to add a little more information regarding the anthias for Nick. I have the squams, bartletts, rubrizonatus, and hutchii currently in the tank together. I had three dispar anthias in the tank also, but the male squam was a real brute on them and was relentless at feeding time in terms of aggression toward the dispar anthias. He was also a terror on the hutchii though the hutchii ignores the aggression and continually feeds like a champ.

In terms of the pecking order in this group, the rubrizonatus male really runs the show. Next in line is the male squam, then the male bartlett. The hutchii is at the bottom of the totem pole now that the dispars are gone (the one that I had left refused to feed in the tank with the male squam on his tail, but is doing fine in the nano cube). Also, the male rubrizonatus likes to spread his aggression out to the green chromis as well. Every now and again, he slips up in challenging the lineatus wrasse and gets put in his place.

In terms of the times in which these fish were added, the squams and dispars were in there first. After that, the hutchii and bartlett anthias were added next. The rubrizonatus male and female were the last to be added but have proven to be at the top of the pecking order with anthias. I really would recommend the squams and bartletts in terms of hardiness. The hutchii anthias are another good choice but the squams may really take issue with them. The rubrizonatus are also tough as bricks. The dispar anthias are a little more difficult to keep IMO when placed in comparison with the others above.

This info is strictly based on my observations in my tank. Things may vary in your tank. So, take it FWIW. Thanks guys!
 
Thanks for the tips! i will think about it.

Hey Dave any more pics? espically of the sump and so on....

thanks!

Nick
 
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