BB Demons

CRO22O,

the effect you experiment has happened to many

BB leading to lower nutrients, than less light intensity and duration as needed to reach same colors, if they are not decrease them they become pale looking,

on your change you when from less intensity (more spread) and higher, which also reduces intensity,

sam
 
Yeah man after talking to a few people, I tried it. I have a ton of the crap on the starboard now and I hate it.
 
but I hear that sr. is really good for the corals themselves, not needed, but very good.

so I'm torn.

Plus I don't test for it and I was dosing a capful every 3rd day so I figure maybe I should lay off for a while.
 
I do dose SR as well, I too noticed a dermatic uptern in coraline algae growth. I dose it with my topoff water, 1 tsp per 10 gallons topoff so there is not a large addition at one time.

Whiskey
 
I noticed my coraline increase a bit when I lowered my photoperiod from 8 hrs to 4 hrs. Still not much if any new growth.

Middleton Mark - my zoos are also locked in a time capsule - not complaining about them though - they just stay in the same spot and don't multiply. Funny with my Rics though, they in high gear.

I did dose Sr a long time ago, but quit because I did not test for it and the potential posionous condition if OD for corals.

My other parameters this week were:
Ca - 420, Alk 10.8, Mg 1280, Salinity 1.025, ph 8.08 - all salifert except ph using pinpoint monitor.
 
so if most of us are in agreement that Sr. is good for coral in appropriate dosages, why dont you all buy test kits? They are not that expensive if you shop around. I think i am going to order one and see what kind of levels I am running. This is the most hope I have had in months of correcting my problem! :)
 
Sr's kind of a pain of a test ... I have one, every time I tested I was normal ... probably should use it up before it gets too old.


With slightly slower coralline growth, I've gotten into scraping the back glass clean. Black backround makes the colors nicer to my eye ... and with a smaller tank, easier to do.

jsweir ... Now you've got me thinking I should move my zoanthids up, since they're fairly slow-growing of late. Just scared to get more nice pieces of branch rock with small colonies on them ... have a few, already. I guess they're a pretty pest.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6946539#post6946539 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jsweir
What is the appropriate level of Sr?
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8 ppm
[http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rhf/index.php]

Randy also has this article: strontium

I know a few salts test low in strontium, it's always interesting to test what's in the water you're `fixing things by water changing' with.
FWIW, when I've tested RC [twice] once it got 10 ppm, once it registered 0-3. Dunno if that means squat, really.
 
The demon in my bare-bottom tanks affects both Montis and Acros, while every other large and small polyp hard coral I have does wonderfully well.

The Montis and Acros do extremely well, alsoââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¦ for about six to nine months. Then, over the course of about two weeks they stop extending their polyps, and within a month are dead. Itââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s not a tissue-pealing-off-the-skeleton death. In fact, the only way I know a colony has died is that algae starts to grow all over it.

So far, Iââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ve lost four Acros and two Montis to this affliction (with a third Monti on itââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s way out at the moment). I have no idea what is causing the deaths or any way to stop it. Nothing else is affected.

Iââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ve been considering populating my tanks with nothing but Pocillopora, Stylophora, Seriatopora, Pavona and Euphyllia from now on. Although, in the case of my 120, there are so many baby Pocillopora colonies (45 at last count) I really donââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t need to add any more. :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6946783#post6946783 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Weatherman
The demon in my bare-bottom tanks affects both Montis and Acros, while every other large and small polyp hard coral I have does wonderfully well.

The Montis and Acros do extremely well, alsoââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¦ for about six to nine months. Then, over the course of about two weeks they stop extending their polyps, and within a month are dead. Itââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s not a tissue-pealing-off-the-skeleton death. In fact, the only way I know a colony has died is that algae starts to grow all over it.

So far, Iââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ve lost four Acros and two Montis to this affliction (with a third Monti on itââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s way out at the moment). I have no idea what is causing the deaths or any way to stop it. Nothing else is affected.

Iââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ve been considering populating my tanks with nothing but Pocillopora, Stylophora, Seriatopora, Pavona and Euphyllia from now on. Although, in the case of my 120, there are so many baby Pocillopora colonies (45 at last count) I really donââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t need to add any more. :)
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I assume you have no idea why this is happening? Have you tried anything to fix the problem that helped or failed? Please give us more information, you have my attention!!!!

Whiskey
 
Itââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s just the latest challenge in my long history of keeping marine critters. I just recently defeated the Pyramid Snails and the rhodophytes. Might as well have something new to figure out. :)

I donââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t know whatââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s causing it. Iââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ve tried moving the afflicted coral to a different location (more light or less light), and it just seems to hasten its demise.

If you look at this picture, the latest afflicted coral is the yellow Monti on top of the rocks on the far right. All the other coral in the tank are doing very well. The Monti was sitting on the bottom of the tank, so I moved it up on top of the rocks to give it more light. Weââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ll see what happens, but Iââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢m not holding out much hope.

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I use the same natural seawater and RO/DI water for all my tanks. The only coral Iââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ve had die in the past year (since I first went bare-bottom) are Montis and Acros.

During that same time Iââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢ve had other hard coral double in size, and my crocea clam and my two Tomato clowns in my 180 have spawned, so I think my water is ok.
 
Strontium I believe should be around 3 on the test kit. I can pull mine up. I don't necessarily agree on that though. Oceanic has 0 strontium in their salt or so a salt analysis on here stated. In my 44, my corraline grew by the tons and my strontium was always 0 or very low. I'm not saying it can't help but it's not going to magically get it growing IMO.
 
Weatherman have you tried any extream measures like 100% water changes? Do you run UV or Carbon? Do you think toxins or war chemicals could be building up? Have you looked for AEFW and Monti eating nudies?

These are the only things I can think of because these corals did well and grew for some time right?

Thanks,
Whiskey
 
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