Blue carpet problem?

[sufunk]

Not what i want to hear but i believe you may be correct phender. Thanks for the link, i'm gonna read it now and see what i can do.

Like i said, i'm no anemone expert for sure but even i can tell this can't be good and it can't be normal. I mean it is shrivelled up so small, the clowns i have for it are BIGGER than the anemone! No way they could host in it like this.

Heres another pic from just now. You can see the mouth is gaping worse than it has since i've had it. The 2nd pic is taken from the same angle as the one in my previous post so you can see just how small it shrinks when the halides go off.

Gaping mouth right now
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Size difference!

under the halides
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5 minutes after halides off under actinics
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[OrionN]

Good luck to your and your Gigantea.

 

[sufunk]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10519604#post10519604 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by OrionN
Good luck to your and your Gigantea.

Thanks, apparently i REALLY need it!

Any advise/suggestions?

 

[Rod Buehler]

at first _guess_ I would have to say water flow is the issue here. What type of water flow is the anemone receiving? IME they need a lot of flow with periods of rest in between (read surge tanks)

150 watt halides on a 180 is not enough for a gigantea IMO/IME

Are you having pH swings from lights on to lights out?

 

[rkelman]

For what its worth my Haddoni's mouth gaped for days when I first got him. He also shinks from time to time but not every night. Good luck I hope it all works out.

 

[sufunk]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10521463#post10521463 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rod Buehler
at first _guess_ I would have to say water flow is the issue here. What type of water flow is the anemone receiving? IME they need a lot of flow with periods of rest in between (read surge tanks)

150 watt halides on a 180 is not enough for a gigantea IMO/IME

Are you having pH swings from lights on to lights out?

I have 2 tunze 6000's on a 7095 multi controller. I keep a decent amount of sps and the flow is cranked pretty high. The carpet isn't in direct flow but he is getting a good amount of flow.


My ph does not swing very much if at all during the night since ive had my sump/fuge on a reverse lighting schedule.


I guess lighting could be an issue but he is directly under the lights and is getting a good amount

 

[Rare Angels]

From the look of it I would guess a pH swing, oxygen level drop, or something related to the sump/fuge lighting coming on opposite schedule.......electrical short or something?

HTH
Dave

 

[sufunk]

I don't think it is related to any of those unfortunately for the reason that literally within minutes of the halides going off it does this. The actinics are still on when it happens.

I'll test tonight but is it even possible for ph or oxygen level to drop any significant amount in literally 3-5 minutes?


Hopefully, what ever the problem is, it will pull thru. I was surprised that when i got up this morning, it actually looked GOOD! For the 1st time since i've gotten it, it wasn't completely deflated in the morning. It was open and looking nice. I'm REALLY hoping that it looks good when i get home and it STAYS that way tonight!

 

[sufunk]

Well, no such luck

Just got home, the actinics are on and it looks pretty bad again.

Tested my ph and it was 8.0 which is what it always is If it was a flow or lighting issue, wouldn't he just move to a better spot?


This is getting aggravating!

 

[sufunk]

Unfortunately, i think the end may be near. He hasn't inflated at all today even after the Halides came on. He has detached from the rock and is just laying there looking pathetic.

What a tease! I was so happy and anxious at work today thinking he may be coming around since he looked pretty good and was inflated this morning.


I have a REALLY bad feeling that by this time tomorrow, he'll be in the garbage

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[55semireef]

Like some of the others were saying. Probably had a bacterial infection that it was trying to fight off. Hopefully it comes around.

 

[sufunk]

I agree.

I'm no anemone expert but i can't imagine it's a water quality or lighting issue. Maybe i'm wrong but i have a alot of sps doing well, a TON of lps all doing well, softies, fish, everything in the tank is doing great but this anemone.

I assume if my sps is happy, my water is good enough for this anemone, isn't it?

Well, whatever the cause, i have my fingers crossed and I am hoping for the best. I don't even care about the money, it's just REALLY upsetting because i've been waiting for a carpet since the tank was set up. I passed up a million that were too big or didn't look healthy. Finally find a nice one and it looks like it's going to crap out on me.

It was such a beautiful animal! It really makes me sad to just watch it decline like this

 

[sufunk]

Well, the emotional roller coaster continues,lol.

All of a sudden, he puffed up and looks pretty good except for a little gaping. He hasn't reattached to the rock and seems to be moving to the left. I'm gonna go clear some corals out of his way but wanted to ask something.

While he is looking decent before my lights go off, should i try to feed him something? If he has some kind of infection, would eating help or hurt?


Here's the latest
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[55semireef]

I would hold off on the feedings until it inflates for you on a consistent basis. Feeding your Gigantea could stress it out. Others might have different opinions though.

Good luck!

 

[Grins]

I have been following this thread and so glad to see it looking better. Looks like you have some work to do moving corals out of the way.

 

[sufunk]

Thanks but the cycle continues.

A little after the halides went off, it again deflated severely. Right now it is gaping worse than i have seen it and looks like it is expelling it guts a little.

This cycle of inflating and deflating can't be good. Everytime it inflates i hope that it has turned the corner and will do well. Then it deflates and looks horrible. It really is amazing how fast it goes from great to terrible.

 

[Rod Buehler]

if its not attached and is staying in that spot without being blown around, my guess is that water movement is at least part of the issue. Its not able to purge itself properly. Also, if the flow were strong enough for the anemone, many of those LPS would not be happy. Just my guess/opinion. I could be wrong.
My giganteas receive enough flow/surge that the anemones pretty much fold in half as the flow lifts the oral disc of the anemone. Somebody else posted a video of their gigantea and flow which show what I just described. and someone else posted a video of either a gigantea or mertensi and the flow that they recieve in the ocean. Most of the posters in that thread were very surprised. Maybe someone saved those links?

Good luck

 

[Gary Majchrzak]

before seeing the post above, I suspected the same problem: not enough water surge.
Here's the picture you posted on page one of this thread

The kind of water movement that your gigantea needs should be irritating corals like Scolymia , Cynarina and Trachyphyllia to the point where you'd need to move them.

 

[sufunk]

Thank you VERY much for the replies!

Gary, it is getting pretty good flow there. If you look at the green leather there, you can see that it is growing kinf of to the left because of the flow hitting it. When he is actually open, he is getting moved around by the flow. My tunze's 6000's are as high as they can go with the 7095.

Hopefully, you guys are right but what should i do? Should i move him or let him move on his own? He moved towards the glass and to the left a little during the night.

 

[Gary Majchrzak]

IMO do not move that anemone- let it move on it's own.
Do you have any other anemones in the same aquarium?