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Blue ringed octopus
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Blue ringed octopus
Doesn't the venom come from a bacteria, any idea where they get that? Maybe something they eat as juveniles and then they are carried on through life?
I'm just interested, I guess we dont really have the technology to find out yet.
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Doesn't the venom come from a bacteria, any idea where they get that? Maybe something they eat as juveniles and then they are carried on through life?
I'm just interested, I guess we dont really have the technology to find out yet.
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why do people have such a psychosis over things they dont understand.
every one of the posters in this thread meets other people every day and yet they get terrorfied over something that cant walk and has rudimentary brain functions. you know the people you meet everyday could kill you...and there isnt anywhere to run as humans have taken over every environ -land, air, sea and space.
every one of the posters in this thread meets other people every day and yet they get terrorfied over something that cant walk and has rudimentary brain functions. you know the people you meet everyday could kill you...and there isnt anywhere to run as humans have taken over every environ -land, air, sea and space.
flying_dutchman
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Your argument doesn't make much sense, it's the octopus natural instinct to attack when is feels threatened. Humans are able to restrain themselves, and don't kill you when they feel bad.
It's like you saying, go ahead go swim with crocodiles, we swim with humans who can kill us, so why not swim with them?
It's like you saying, go ahead go swim with crocodiles, we swim with humans who can kill us, so why not swim with them?
Slickcg33
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Gonodactylus
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There are lots of things in the ocean that can kill or injure you just as there are dangers in the city, desert or high mountains. Each environment has its own unique set of hazards. Some of those environments, because we frequent them often, do not seem particularly dangerous. We recognize and understand the risks and how to avoid them. I would venture to guess that most people who visit this thread know that Hapalochlaena can kill humans and have a basic understanding of how not to be envenomated. It is the person who has never heard of or seen a blue-ring that concerns me - whether that contact comes on a beach in Sydney or in a friends aquarium in Chicago.
Posting lots of gloom and doom warnings on lists such as this one doesn't do much to reach the uninformed. Perhaps the hype will lead a few aquarists to not purchase a blue-ring or if they do, to take steps to secure the octopus from the curious hands of the neighbor child. I hope so.
As a professor and chair of an academic department, I am legally required to inform my students of potential dangers working in the lab or in the field. Last week we sent a class of 22 undergraduates to a field station in French Polynesia for three monthsto study island biology including the marine realm. I spent two hours showing them a PowerPoint of the dangers they might encounter ranging from deadly sponges to sharks, cubomedusae to stonefish. Will they all remain safe? Almost certainly not. There will be the odd sea urchin wound, coral cut, or stingray stab. It happens with every class every year. However, hopefully no one will put a textile cone in their pocket or pick up a sea snake. We can warn against obvious dangers and instill a certain degree of caution. Fortunately, blue-rings don't occur in Moorea, so I can leave that one off the list, but if they did, I would include them in the lecture along with lots of photos, instructions on what to do if bitten. and a stern warning that these things can kill you in a few minutes.
Roy
Posting lots of gloom and doom warnings on lists such as this one doesn't do much to reach the uninformed. Perhaps the hype will lead a few aquarists to not purchase a blue-ring or if they do, to take steps to secure the octopus from the curious hands of the neighbor child. I hope so.
As a professor and chair of an academic department, I am legally required to inform my students of potential dangers working in the lab or in the field. Last week we sent a class of 22 undergraduates to a field station in French Polynesia for three monthsto study island biology including the marine realm. I spent two hours showing them a PowerPoint of the dangers they might encounter ranging from deadly sponges to sharks, cubomedusae to stonefish. Will they all remain safe? Almost certainly not. There will be the odd sea urchin wound, coral cut, or stingray stab. It happens with every class every year. However, hopefully no one will put a textile cone in their pocket or pick up a sea snake. We can warn against obvious dangers and instill a certain degree of caution. Fortunately, blue-rings don't occur in Moorea, so I can leave that one off the list, but if they did, I would include them in the lecture along with lots of photos, instructions on what to do if bitten. and a stern warning that these things can kill you in a few minutes.
Roy
noobtothereef
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blue ring octopus's illegal?? Yeah and spiders are illegal too.... the only law here in omaha concerning any dangerous animals is in regards to wild cats, snakes over 8' and exotic animals(lions tigers elephants etc....)
people keep, scorpios, venomous snakes, spiders, stone fish, lionfish, bla bla bla
noobtothereef
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Im pretty sure if you have a reef tank period theres something in there that could kill you, via bacteria, palytoxin etc , your furnace ca kill you, the food you eat can kill you.... its just a matter of how smart you are and if you have common sense, if you stick your hand in the tank and throw it around sure it will bite you, common sense.... dont stick your hands in the tank.... its not like the things going to crawl out of the tank at night and come bite you in your sleep....... here in omaha we have brown recluse spiders that can crawl into your bed at night and kill you over a period of time after your flesh eats itself, common sense people................ its like saying...geez i dont want a stove in my house.....it could burn me and kill me....
noobtothereef
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they might be able to climb and "fall" out of there tank and wander a little ways from the tank to die... its not like they are running around your house looking for people to bite.... for the story that one climbs out and into another tank across the roof and then back to its home tank....... yeah ....ok.....
then take the prison population. whats it at now? 8mil? thats an army and theyve shown how good at how people can restrain themselves.
its just irritating how much mystic/monster-like crap comes up with them. reread some of the thread, people saying how dare you own one etc.
samdaman
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What happens with the animal that eats them? would they die too?
noobtothereef
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i think theres a big difference between poison in the blood stream and poison in the stomach/digestive system, i dont think it would kill an animal but would probably make it sick by eating it. Im probably wrong though
TampaReefer79
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Probably not. An animal that would eat a blue ringed ocotopus would probably have evolved over time to be able to do so. There are tons of poisonous/venemous animals that are eaten by other animals.
Off the top of my head, snakes eat poisonous dart frogs. And aren't scorpions munched on by certain animals?
samdaman
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Hmm I was wondering because If some animal eats it, It HAS to encounter the poison in some time during eating it. I saw this video too so thats why I was thinking about it. You can see it getting dark blue and its probably attacking too..
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