Bought new led light fixture from China.

[Gillguy]

View attachment 253529i think this is the same led setup you have

Mine is very similar to yours but I have the green and the red in the center between the blues. My layout is at the bottom of this post. This layout is perfect because it gives you lots of options for color preference and still get plenty of blue for the corals. Right now I have the two blue channels at 70 % and the white channel at 50%. Channel four with the red, green and blues are at 40%. With this custom layout if everything is at 100% it's still very white even with a 2:5 to 1 ratio.

Hi Gillguy

i appreciate this post. i'm looking at a 24", my 29 gal is 30 long so i think the 24" will work, same led pattern setup as yours. i plan to use the adjustable brackets which they say will pu the fixture about 4" above the tank, what do you suggest for the degree spread of the LED for this kind of setup. Thanks

Yes the S200 36 inch will work. At four inches above the water get the 90 degree optics.

Any suggestions on which of these lights to get for a 48x48 square tank? The 48" unit will probably have a lot of light spillage as it would run all the way to the tank's edges. But I wonder if the 36" units would be enough. Also, how many to get to cover the whole square - two or three?

Three would be perfect of the 36 inch S200 model. You could get away with just two but use 90 degree optics or even 120 degree if your tank is less than 21 inches deep. If you try just two put them side by side front to back and separate them by 8 inches.

Gillguy, many thanks for your answer! We have great community of marine aquarium funs here, but still learning lot from you guys there

I am about to irder after communication with Ledzeal, can you please recommend how to arrange 4 channels better... I really would like to make best learning from your exoerience, thanks in advance

Look what I told Jombolo, I recommend my custom layout. It has plenty of blue leds which give you many color options. You don't have to get the red or green. They are not necessary for coral growth. You could replace them with either UV or blues.

 

[jombolo]

Thanks Gillguy. what would you recommend for my setup, the 60, 90 or 120 degree for the angles?

 

[Gillguy]

thanks gillguy. What would you recommend for my setup, the 60, 90 or 120 degree for the angles?

90

 

[mikedenton49]

Thanks for the thread. Ive been searching for sometime for the perfect led setup to replace my halide t5 setup for numerous reasons. I'm certainly curious and emailed Kevin just now. I would really like to see how it all looks at full brightness minus the t5's. You really think it will be sufficient for any coral as a stand alone unit?

It's a very cool product no doubt about it. It will be going on a 120. You do like the red and green for the color effect?

Thanks again.

 

[Gillguy]

Thanks for the thread. Ive been searching for sometime for the perfect led setup to replace my halide t5 setup for numerous reasons. I'm certainly curious and emailed Kevin just now. I would really like to see how it all looks at full brightness minus the t5's. You really think it will be sufficient for any coral as a stand alone unit?

It's a very cool product no doubt about it. It will be going on a 120. You do like the red and green for the color effect?

Thanks again.

I've had the light on the tank now for about 7 weeks and my tank has never been better. ALL corals have responded amazing, zoas, softies, LPS and SPS and clams. I still have the T-5's but I'm down to 3 tubes instead of 4 and cut the time they are on from 8 hours to 4. I'm leaving them on for now because everything is doing so well but have no doubt the light alone is enough.

Before the ledzeal light I had DIY leds with the T-5's and the growth and color was not bad but nothing like what I'm getting now. I don't think I'll ever put everything at 100 % because these lights are too powerful. I might remove the T-5's in the future but not now. What I will be doing is gradually cut down on the time the T-5's are on.

The red and green are cool for color in the tank but make sure especially if you get red leds to get the 90 or 120 degree optics because they are strong and you'll get a spot like effect on the rocks or sand. You can custom get what ever optics you want. For example you can ask for 60 degree on everyhting except for the reds and they will do it.

 

[zhav19]

Layout

Layout

They proposed this kinf of customized layout, what do you think about it? Whats a best option to arrange it in channels, i mean is it cool to have only whites as one of the channels?

 

[Gillguy]

They proposed this kinf of customized layout, what do you think about it? Whats a best option to arrange it in channels, i mean is it cool to have only whites as one of the channels?

I don't understand that layout. It doesn't look like the layout for the S150 which has only two clusters. Remember for your tank you'll need the 24 inch S150. Anyways, yes you want to have each channels control each color of light that way you can control the color of the tank to your preference. You should have one channel for the whites, one channel for the blues, one channel for the blues and UV and one channel for the Blues with the green and red.

 

[zhav19]

I don't understand that layout. It doesn't look like the layout for the S150 which has only two clusters. Remember for your tank you'll need the 24 inch S150. Anyways, yes you want to have each channels control each color of light that way you can control the color of the tank to your preference. You should have one channel for the whites, one channel for the blues, one channel for the blues and UV and one channel for the Blues with the green and red.

S150 will not feet my size, so i plan S120 (40 leds) and it has this strange layout not like other units. Its clear for channels thanks. But how you find color ratio proposed by them, good enough?

 

[Gillguy]

From the layout it's hard to tell how many whites you have. Also it doesn't look uniform. You want the colors to be the same on both sides of the fixture. Can you tell me how many of each you have and try to make the leds even throughout

 

[mikedenton49]

So Kevin got back to me. Very professional. Shipping sucks, but still I think its worth it. I've decided on the S400, the 5 foot fixture, set up the way you describe Gill. I will whites on one channel and will do the green and red with 120 lens. My tank is 6 foot, so I figure the 5 foot light with 5 banks will be perfect. I wanna sleep on it for a few days, as 605$ shipped is a lot of money for me, but a good investment. Any further advice or representations I can email him so it looks just perfect? Will be hanging from ceiling at 12" above surface. Thanks again for all your input here. Nice of ya.

 

[zhav19]

From the layout it's hard to tell how many whites you have. Also it doesn't look uniform. You want the colors to be the same on both sides of the fixture. Can you tell me how many of each you have and try to make the leds even throughout

It looks to be 6 whites,18 rb, 3b, 4uv,3g,2r and i dont know? What are those brown (dr) and yellow (o), may be you know?

One more question which leds they use? Cree upgrade is quite expensive

 

[Gillguy]

It looks to be 6 whites,18 rb, 3b, 4uv,3g,2r and i dont know? What are those brown (dr) and yellow (o), may be you know?

One more question which leds they use? Cree upgrade is quite expensive

This is what Ledzeal website has for the S120 color distribution.

Model Malibu S120
Wattage: 40*3w(Cree/Bridgelux/Epistar/Ipled)
Power consumption:110-120w
Color ratio:12000K:UV(410NM) : (460-465NM): (W-R) : G(510NM)= 18+ 2+16+2+2
Lifespan:50,000hrs
Product dimension: 400x200x48mm
Product weight: Lamp+ Driver+Accessories=2.8+0.7+0.5=4.0KG Gross weight: 4.8KG
Package:Foam+Carton+Wooden box

Looks to me it's 18 white + 2 UV + 16 White + 2 Red + 2 Green. You need to verify that with Kevin. That layout is too white. Make the whites only 8 and the other 8 turn into blue 450nm.

 

[Gillguy]

So Kevin got back to me. Very professional. Shipping sucks, but still I think its worth it. I've decided on the S400, the 5 foot fixture, set up the way you describe Gill. I will whites on one channel and will do the green and red with 120 lens. My tank is 6 foot, so I figure the 5 foot light with 5 banks will be perfect. I wanna sleep on it for a few days, as 605$ shipped is a lot of money for me, but a good investment. Any further advice or representations I can email him so it looks just perfect? Will be hanging from ceiling at 12" above surface. Thanks again for all your input here. Nice of ya.

The only thing I would add is that if you are hanging it ask Kevin if they can throw in four extra bolts that mount on the unit for the hanging kit. My unit is mounted directly to the canopy so I didn't use the hanging kit but my friend used the kit and two of the bolts wore out when they were tightened them too much. If you order it post pictures. I'd like to see your tank with them on.

 

[cy93]

Do you happen to have par numbers for this fixture?

 

[Gillguy]

Do you happen to have par numbers for this fixture?

No I don't have a par meter

 

[Devaji108]

so I have been playing around with ordering this fixture for days now the S200 for my 40br seams most ppl are dealing with Kevin all my emails were from Hanks anyone else have experience with him?
think we have emailed 12-14 times in the last 4 days...C.S is amazing so far. getting more from this company than a few US that I mailed.

for those of you that have received them did you have to pay import tax?

what do you think of this layout? ( just a few changes from there proposed layout...)

RB---B---G
UV---RB---RB---UV
W---R---W
RB---RB---RB---RB
W---B---W
UV---RB---RB---UV
G---B---RB
totals:
10Rb
4 UV
4W 5K
3 blues
2 greens
1 Red not sure if I what 660 or 630
this is per pod and will repeat 3 times...

I took out 1 orange 1 red 1 white from there proposed layout.

thoughts feedback very much welcome!

PS I know I am not local but this is the best thread for LEDzeal lights on RC

 

[Gillguy]

so I have been playing around with ordering this fixture for days now the S200 for my 40br seams most ppl are dealing with Kevin all my emails were from Hanks anyone else have experience with him?
think we have emailed 12-14 times in the last 4 days...C.S is amazing so far. getting more from this company than a few US that I mailed.

for those of you that have received them did you have to pay import tax?

what do you think of this layout? ( just a few changes from there proposed layout...)

RB---B---G
UV---RB---RB---UV
W---R---W
RB---RB---RB---RB
W---B---W
UV---RB---RB---UV
G---B---RB
totals:
10Rb
4 UV
4W 5K
3 blues
2 greens
1 Red not sure if I what 660 or 630
this is per pod and will repeat 3 times...

I took out 1 orange 1 red 1 white from there proposed layout.

thoughts feedback very much welcome!

PS I know I am not local but this is the best thread for LEDzeal lights on RC

Looks great the only thing I would change is place the green in between the blue and royal blue.

 

[Devaji108]

Looks great the only thing I would change is place the green in between the blue and royal blue.

why do you suggest that?
so are you thinking on row down or just in the middle of the row its on?

now the only think is I am having a problem with the channels only can have 18 led per channel and I have 30 RB o 12 -5K whites finding it hard to balance out the channels so I still have color control?
open to any thoughts you guys might have.

my thoughts are:
1 channel just for the RB (18 leds)
one for the whites, red & 3 B (18 leds)
one for the UV and most of the blues (12 UV and 6B=18 leds )
and the last for 6G, 12RB = (18 leds )

I think that is the best I can come up with.
I also have the option of a Orange 590NM but I feel I have that covered.

now lets talk optics fixture will be tank mounted they say 4" of of the tank so I am guessing 5-6" from H20 line. thing 90 for everything except Red Green. but not sure about the UV and Blues?

thanks everyone for your time I hope I inspire others too
cheers

 

[RCHI]

Layout

Layout

The lenses are easily replaced. The unit has a plexiglass that slides out and it exposes the lenses. I already replaced all four of my red leds from 60 degrees to 80. I used my old lenses from my DIY leds. As far as custom spectrum, you can choose from any of these:
Available spectrum:

410nm UV
450~460 royal blue
460~470 blue
510~520 Green
630 660 RED
3000K /6000K/12000K White

I am very pleased with the color. As far as the daylight white leds. You don't want too many of them. What you really want is as many blues as possible. A 2.5:1 ratio or 3:1 of blue to white is what's best. I had them replace four white leds on each cluster and replaced them with Royal Blues 450nm. I now have only six white and fourteen blues leds and two UV. I added a green and red just for color but not really needed. They will custom make what ever spectrum you want with the available colors. I was surprised how white the lights are at 100% even with the changes I made. I do not recommend getting the standard layout. Too white and corals will not get enough blue which is necessary. Remember that you can control all four channels independently and get the spectrum you want.

Here is the standard layout and my custom one.

I noticed that there are 6 LED's per channel , any idea if they could make one channel say 4 and another 8 to keep my planned 4pc 410nm UV separated?

Also can they substitute XMLu2 for additional fee since they are 28% more efficient than XPGR5 (approx 390 flux vs 500 flux @1300mah) ?

I wanted this mix and might reduce blue and add whites since will be using 2pc T5HO super actinic & purple plus to have less shadows and a fuller spectrum (I feel the way of the future is hybrid LED-T5HO reduced disco and less shadows also notice how excessively busy the glitter is from LED compared to MH -see these lights http://blog.aquanerd.com/2013/04/pacific-sun-ariel-led-t5ho.html), your thoughts?

4pc Channel A 410nm UV -- 3.12 - LEDS TO MATCH RADIUM PRO
4pc-Channel B 460~470 blue -- 3.84-LEDS TO MATCH RADIUM PRO
2pc-Channel B 510~520 Green -- 1.92-LEDS TO MATCH RADIUM PRO
2pc-Channel B 630 660 RED -- 1.92-LEDS TO MATCH RADIUM PRO
6PC-Channel C 450~460 royal blue -- 6.24- LEDS TO MATCH RADIUM PRO
6PC-Channel D 3000K /6000K/12000K White -- 6.24-LEDS TO MATCH RADIUM PRO

Note: above math based on watts per color on radium (combined 412nm & 400nm) and assuming that ledzeal runs all LED's at same mah

 

[Gillguy]

why do you suggest that?
so are you thinking on row down or just in the middle of the row its on?

now the only think is I am having a problem with the channels only can have 18 led per channel and I have 30 RB o 12 -5K whites finding it hard to balance out the channels so I still have color control?
open to any thoughts you guys might have.

my thoughts are:
1 channel just for the RB (18 leds)
one for the whites, red & 3 B (18 leds)
one for the UV and most of the blues (12 UV and 6B=18 leds )
and the last for 6G, 12RB = (18 leds )

I think that is the best I can come up with.
I also have the option of a Orange 590NM but I feel I have that covered.

now lets talk optics fixture will be tank mounted they say 4" of of the tank so I am guessing 5-6" from H20 line. thing 90 for everything except Red Green. but not sure about the UV and Blues?

thanks everyone for your time I hope I inspire others too
cheers

That color combo will work. Don't get orange and 90 degree optics for everything will work fine.