Breeding Ocellaris Clowns - My unexpected attempt!
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subman719
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The book "CLOWNFISHES" by Joyce D. Wilkerson was recommended to me so I'm passing along the recommendation. I finally started to skim through it and the Breading and Rearing section is very useful! Here's a link to check it out: http://www.amazon.com/Clownfishes-J...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223756808&sr=8-1
Hope this helps! It is for me, now that I "finally" opened the cover! LOL
subman719
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And all this time I thought the shaking/spazing was from a mental condition and he was having seizers!
Here's a couple day 19 pics of my one and only survivor from batch #3. I finally ordered the sample pack of Ottohime from Reed. I guess "better late than never"!
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Here's a couple day 19 pics of my one and only survivor from batch #3. I finally ordered the sample pack of Ottohime from Reed. I guess "better late than never"!
this is me
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Very interesting and informative thread. Good for future reference.
Although my onyx clowns are tiny right now and probably take at least two more years to spawn, I should have this bookmarked thread.
I admire your hard work and effort in raising these clowns and more so with your report. I hope your next batch will have a better yield.
Although my onyx clowns are tiny right now and probably take at least two more years to spawn, I should have this bookmarked thread.
I admire your hard work and effort in raising these clowns and more so with your report. I hope your next batch will have a better yield.
Zaita
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This allows you to remove the tile on the night of hatching so the fry aren't at risk of being eaten by the tank mates. It basically means you can take the tile and drop it into your tank populated with rotifers/phytoplankton so they can eat as soon as they hatch without having to be caught.
It's also a viable option to remove the tile early and use an airstone to keep the eggs moving to mimic the behaviour of the father fanning them with his tail. This allows you to hatch them yourself in the absence of the parents.
subman719
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this is me- Thank you very much for the compliment! My intent was for us all to learn from each other so we can reduce mistakes and increase our success and survival rates. It's also helping me to keep an accurate log with pictures.
khoivo1- I also want to add to what Zaita said. The tile trick keeps you from having to stay up all night chasing after larvae for 5 hours! NOT FUN!!! LOL
khoivo1- I also want to add to what Zaita said. The tile trick keeps you from having to stay up all night chasing after larvae for 5 hours! NOT FUN!!! LOL
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man i should start reading and learning how to breed here,,my pair of maron clown keep having eeg but i just leave them in the tank and dont care much about it,, so if i want to start breeding should i set another tank maybe a nano tank for the pair of clown ??i have alot of fishes in the main tank
subman719
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While I'm definitely no expert, from what I've read (and think I understand), even if you take the breeding clowns out, you still need a separate tank to raise the larvae once they hatch since their requirements are different. The water they live in has to be rich in rotifers during the early stages because their eye sight is very limited and they practically have to bump into their food to see it. Also, there is no filtration on the larvae tank at this stage so it's not a suitable environment for the adults.
I do have to mention again, the book "Clownfish" that I mentioned a few posts ago is worth every penny! It covers every aspect you can imagine and I'm sure my success rate would have been much better if I started with that from the beginning.
I also recommend reading a couple of other threads by Dazed and FB. They have more experience than me and their threads helped start me in the right direction.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1289236
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1401023
I do have to mention again, the book "Clownfish" that I mentioned a few posts ago is worth every penny! It covers every aspect you can imagine and I'm sure my success rate would have been much better if I started with that from the beginning.
I also recommend reading a couple of other threads by Dazed and FB. They have more experience than me and their threads helped start me in the right direction.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1289236
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1401023
subman719
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Some quick "sad" updates:
10/16/08- 4th batch of clowns hatch but I missed them. Was too tired to stay up after waiting 2 hours and saw nothing.
10/19/08- 5th batch of clown eggs laid.
10/24/08- My last little surivor died. I think he suffocated because he was still in one of the Rotifer tanks and there was a very high density of them.
10/26/08- 5th batch of clowns hatch but missed these too. I got stuck at work and didn't make it home in time. I actually had all my Rots going and larvae tanks ready! "It's always something!"
They look like their ready to lay batch #6. I think I'll just glue myself to a chair in front of the tank this time!
10/16/08- 4th batch of clowns hatch but I missed them. Was too tired to stay up after waiting 2 hours and saw nothing.
10/19/08- 5th batch of clown eggs laid.
10/24/08- My last little surivor died. I think he suffocated because he was still in one of the Rotifer tanks and there was a very high density of them.
10/26/08- 5th batch of clowns hatch but missed these too. I got stuck at work and didn't make it home in time. I actually had all my Rots going and larvae tanks ready! "It's always something!"
They look like their ready to lay batch #6. I think I'll just glue myself to a chair in front of the tank this time!
AnnArborBuck
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You might want to check out this idea for "harvesting" the eggs off of the rock before they hatch and then artifically hatching them that night. This will stop your late night adventures of collecting the larvae.
http://www.marinebreeder.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2213&highlight=straw
The key to the thread above is the idea of using a modified soda straw, airline, and a siphon to collect the eggs just before hatching. You can use this technique to get them right off of the rock they are on, no need for a piece of tile in a beautiful display tank.
http://www.marinebreeder.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2213&highlight=straw
The key to the thread above is the idea of using a modified soda straw, airline, and a siphon to collect the eggs just before hatching. You can use this technique to get them right off of the rock they are on, no need for a piece of tile in a beautiful display tank.
subman719
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Actually, we did call him "baby Nemo"! Everyone was devistated to hear he died. We had family and friends over and everyone adored him.<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13642147#post13642147 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sandman12
and just when I was about to tell you you truely had a "nemo". Keep it up , your guys are inspiring!
My "ding dongs" just laid clutch #6, but of course, on the rock "across" from the tiles I finally put in the tank! I'm thinking of trying the "straw trick" that AnnArborBuck's link mentioned but I'm not sure if I want to take a chance right now since I'm starting from ground zero again. I'll make sure I'm home and stay up this time around. I'll leave the tiles in there since it didn't seem to bother them to lay the eggs. I didn't want to put tiles in there while there were eggs in there in fear that they might get spooked and kill the eggs.
subman719
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Most likely, yes. Once the larvae hatch and are swimming around, they become fair game. The clowns may not realize that they are their own and think they're food. Should you try to venture into saving them, read as much as you can in these threads and prepare for a lot of patience and dedication. I'm going on my 6th batch and still haven't gotten this thing right but I'm learning more each time I fail!
AnnArborBuck:
Thanks for that link - I just read that whole thread and it seems very interesting. I think I will try that method of egg harvest/hatching when my clowns lay the next time. Id love to hear from anyone else who has tried parts or all of this new (to me) method.
Thanks for that link - I just read that whole thread and it seems very interesting. I think I will try that method of egg harvest/hatching when my clowns lay the next time. Id love to hear from anyone else who has tried parts or all of this new (to me) method.
subman719
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UUUUUGGGGHHHHH!!!! I don't get it! I stayed up most of the night waiting for the hatch. Everything was in place: pumps off, lights out at 10pm, etc.... I kept checking on them most of the night and nothing hatched. I finally gave up around 5am. Just checked the clutch around 9:30am and most of them are gone! So much for the "hatching 20 to 30 minutes after lights out" thing! This is really getting old!
