Bubble King & "Mini" Bubble King Skimmers Coming Soon - New Lower Pricing!
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Conceyted
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Man, to be honest (and I am not hating on BK, I would be rather upset if that was the case after I spent over $1000. My H&S took literally NO time to break in. Every time I clean the cup it goes back to skimming right where it left off. Nothing like the sensitive skimmers I have had in the past. EuroReef, ASM, etc.
Capt. Nemo
Active member
Hey Conceyted, what H&S skimmer are you using?
Conceyted
Active member
I am using an A150 on my 90gallon. I love it. I do very little adjusting. It just keeps going. I only wish I could get some darker skimmate out of it. But I always set it to run wet as I have very little patience to watch it gather skimmate. I enjoy cleaning it twice a week 
Capt. Nemo
Active member
Thanks. Reason, I ask is that I have been considering getting either one of the insump H&S skimmers or the A150 for my 55 gal. The A150 may be overkill for my system and the insump models dont require any plumbing which I'd rather avoid.
DeltecRules
New member
Re: UPDATE ON MINI 200 THAT WAS HAVING PROBLEMS (DeltecRules)
Re: UPDATE ON MINI 200 THAT WAS HAVING PROBLEMS (DeltecRules)
Gee you say this thread is not to bash or say that Deltecrules was not having problems I think you are trying to prove that I am some kind of liar. Sorry Jeremy you can write all you want, test all you want but my experience with this skimmer is factual and I am not the only one having problems with the Bk mini 200. But I am pretty sure you are going to do whatever to try and discredit me from my experience with the BK mini 200. The knocking noise, CNC shavings on impellar, scuff marks on white bubble injection plate, along with LACK OF foam head do exist. No matter how I had the water level set in the sump at 7.5 or 9.5 inches which Klaus recommends didn't matter. The water level at the black line, inch above the line, or wayyyy above the line to the point of the skimmer leaking from the cup I hardly got anything. All I got was water condensation around the cup or some skimate which I had to raise the water level so high in the skimmer it was leaking out of the collection cup.
If you are testing the with a Dwyer you are using the wrong unit. You need a vacuum meter to get an accurate air reading. If you are getting this high air readings at 950-1200 LPH of air, how come I have no foam developed at all? Maybe the skimmer should have a LPH of air at least 1500-1600 to get any kind of foam head. What kind of tank size and bioload are you using? Are you going to test the other people who are having problem with there Mini BK 200's? I received a PM from one of them claiming that there ASM G3 was pulling more. LOL no matter what I say things are going to be twisted and as far as I know you would probably pour coffee in the collection cup saying its working.
After reading this ridiculous post by Jeremy I had to read it is evident that Jeremy's motive is to prove that I am some kind of liar. I will never buy another product again from premiumaquatics again. I spent a small fortune on many things from PA. And I would also like to thank Klaus who doesn't seem to stand behind his products. He hasn't said or done one thing to asisst me with my problem. Thanks again. I will not posts again since this is turning into bash me for sharing my experience with lackluster performer and poor quality constructed Mini Bk 200 I received.
Re: UPDATE ON MINI 200 THAT WAS HAVING PROBLEMS (DeltecRules)
Gee you say this thread is not to bash or say that Deltecrules was not having problems I think you are trying to prove that I am some kind of liar. Sorry Jeremy you can write all you want, test all you want but my experience with this skimmer is factual and I am not the only one having problems with the Bk mini 200. But I am pretty sure you are going to do whatever to try and discredit me from my experience with the BK mini 200. The knocking noise, CNC shavings on impellar, scuff marks on white bubble injection plate, along with LACK OF foam head do exist. No matter how I had the water level set in the sump at 7.5 or 9.5 inches which Klaus recommends didn't matter. The water level at the black line, inch above the line, or wayyyy above the line to the point of the skimmer leaking from the cup I hardly got anything. All I got was water condensation around the cup or some skimate which I had to raise the water level so high in the skimmer it was leaking out of the collection cup.
If you are testing the with a Dwyer you are using the wrong unit. You need a vacuum meter to get an accurate air reading. If you are getting this high air readings at 950-1200 LPH of air, how come I have no foam developed at all? Maybe the skimmer should have a LPH of air at least 1500-1600 to get any kind of foam head. What kind of tank size and bioload are you using? Are you going to test the other people who are having problem with there Mini BK 200's? I received a PM from one of them claiming that there ASM G3 was pulling more. LOL no matter what I say things are going to be twisted and as far as I know you would probably pour coffee in the collection cup saying its working.
After reading this ridiculous post by Jeremy I had to read it is evident that Jeremy's motive is to prove that I am some kind of liar. I will never buy another product again from premiumaquatics again. I spent a small fortune on many things from PA. And I would also like to thank Klaus who doesn't seem to stand behind his products. He hasn't said or done one thing to asisst me with my problem. Thanks again. I will not posts again since this is turning into bash me for sharing my experience with lackluster performer and poor quality constructed Mini Bk 200 I received.
Capt. Nemo
Active member
Conceyted, I sent you a PM.
Conceyted
Active member
Re: Re: UPDATE ON MINI 200 THAT WAS HAVING PROBLEMS (DeltecRules)
Re: Re: UPDATE ON MINI 200 THAT WAS HAVING PROBLEMS (DeltecRules)
Re: Re: UPDATE ON MINI 200 THAT WAS HAVING PROBLEMS (DeltecRules)
I was going to stay out of this, but I am actually in awe now by this post. From the beginning you have come out with guns drawn firing shots at Jeremy and BK for a faulty skimmer. You stated yourself that your water level changes, and it is rather evident that you did not have much experience with internal skimmers. Then you blame the loss of two fish on your BK skimmer not working which is completely uncalled for. Then you claim that PA should have sent you an 800 dollar pump to replace your current pump because you had some loose shavings inside of the impeller? Because you felt that it wasn't working correctly. I don't believe PA's request to send in the skimmer for testing was out of line by any means. Having spent 15 years in the hobby, you should have known that skimmers usually don't just start working. Furthermore, if you knew your new skimmer was not working properly, then your decision to continue heavy feeding without a working skimmer on the tank was a bad one. Noone can be blamed for this but yourself. After all of this you still refuse to send the skimmer back for testing, then you start with the bad talk about Jeremy and how you felt slighted. You did not give them a chance to fix the situation. Had you given PA a chance to fix this I have a feeling the outcome would have been very different. Finally, they allow you to return the skimmer for a FULL REFUND and then when they post up that they just received the skimmer back and plan to test it to find out the problem, you accuse them of badmouthing you and trying to sabotage the tests so that it can make you look bad? Why would they want to make you look bad? They refunded your money in full, they went above and beyond what they should have done, and yet you still say you will never buy from them again? I am glad you won't post here anymore, if you somehow were you find your way off this site, I would be doubly glad. You are the epitome of a bad customer.
jnb
Premium Member
mine will become a little subdued depending on what I feed - based on my experience this happens to most. I find this skimmer not more impacted by feedings than any other skimmer I have had which includes euro, H&S, Elos, tunze - and maybe a little less - it all depends on what you are feeding
One thing I have enjoyed so far, but it is still early, is that this skimmer requires less adjustment than any other I have had. The only adjustment so far, is that as it breaks in further, that I had to turn down the level a tad - so far it is skimming so consistently that I can accurately estimate each day how much skimate will be in the cup when I get home. My sump water level is about as stable as any - it simply does not change - this is part of it. The other part is that I think this skimmer, so far, is showing what a good match size-wise it is for my system - I think this is a big part - too big, or bigger than needed (big is not the right word) then it skims, then subsides which tends to make us adjust to that all the time.
One thing I have enjoyed so far, but it is still early, is that this skimmer requires less adjustment than any other I have had. The only adjustment so far, is that as it breaks in further, that I had to turn down the level a tad - so far it is skimming so consistently that I can accurately estimate each day how much skimate will be in the cup when I get home. My sump water level is about as stable as any - it simply does not change - this is part of it. The other part is that I think this skimmer, so far, is showing what a good match size-wise it is for my system - I think this is a big part - too big, or bigger than needed (big is not the right word) then it skims, then subsides which tends to make us adjust to that all the time.
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Klaus Jansen
.Registered Member
@DeltecRules....
the Mini Bk´s 200 have more as 1000 Liter airintake. Look the picture. All Pumps where RE shipping to USA was testing in saltwater and running with US-voltage 110 Volt/60 Hz. Royal-Exclusiv has a strong Quality assurance.
@Jeremy...
please, can you opening the Pumphousing and check the Needlewheel ?
I cannot imagine that needles broke off
regards..
the Mini Bk´s 200 have more as 1000 Liter airintake. Look the picture. All Pumps where RE shipping to USA was testing in saltwater and running with US-voltage 110 Volt/60 Hz. Royal-Exclusiv has a strong Quality assurance.
@Jeremy...
please, can you opening the Pumphousing and check the Needlewheel ?
I cannot imagine that needles broke off
regards..
Hello Capt. Nemo!
I currently own H&S 150 internal skimmer. I am happy with it only for one thing though and that is that I measured the air flow with a Dwyer air meter and only measured 300 liters of air per hour. I currently have this skimmer on a 125 gallon system. Looking to upgrade to a Bubble King Supermarine. Hope this helps.
I currently own H&S 150 internal skimmer. I am happy with it only for one thing though and that is that I measured the air flow with a Dwyer air meter and only measured 300 liters of air per hour. I currently have this skimmer on a 125 gallon system. Looking to upgrade to a Bubble King Supermarine. Hope this helps.
Hi Guys,
I have been folowing this thread with very keen interest since DeltecRules sent me a link to it from the zeovit forum. I also have been having big problems with my BK 180 Mini. I will also add I did not get my skimmer from Premium Aquatics. I have 2 issues with the skimmer.
1. Klaus when people post to forums like here and at zeovit.com(where you have your own manufacturers forum) YOU NEED to post in the forum when there is activity. I am not the only one to have posted to these fourms looking for your assistance in setting up your skimmers. I also have sent PM and emailed from your website. All I have ever got from you was a deafening silence(and I know you have looked at these forums as you have posted into them from time to time after my questions have been asked....several times). I am sorry if this is blunt, but my customer service experience of your company has to rate as one of the lowest I have ever delt with.
2. Lack luster performance. To give everyone the history I initially had a skimmer which didn't produce any skimmate, set at the level that is recomended. It was great at producing condensation, nothing better then a very light yellow colour and only about 1/2 inch in the bottom of the collection cup after 1 week. If I raised the water level to 1/2 to 2/3's up the neck inside the collection cup I would then get some skimmate(weak tea colour and about 1/2 inch per day. One of the problems that was diagnosed was a fluctuating water level(only about 1/2 inch but enough to effect the performance), once this was fixed with an auto top off unit it started to skim more consistantly. The water level still needs to be set at this high level but it is now producing about 2 inch of weak tea coloured skimmate per 3 days. This is nothing like the performance I see other people having and you also refer to.
The mention of the grease seams like an interesting comment(I never got a manual). Something I observed when the skimmer was set as recomended was a head of dry foam would bulid up the neck and get wedged between the lid and the flange and not go anywhere. Any new foam building under it would then have nowhere to go and fall back into the skimmer. If I understand the comments so far, greasing this up would encourage the bubbles to pop and fall into the collection cup as bubbles or liquid(please correct me if I am off base here). If I have this right, this should unblock the flange and get more skimmate to form more easily?
I do have a question regarding the grease does it have to be a silicone based grease or could I use a petroleoum based grease for this purpose. Being an inert grease and outside the tank it shouldn't have any affect on my inhabitants but would it affect the plastic of the skimmer?
As mentioned earlier, I didn't receive any documentation with my skimmer, this is a very poor oversight when selling any product and could go a long way to solving most peoples problems before they escalate to accusations and nasty emails.
Lets all play nicely now.
Christopher
I have been folowing this thread with very keen interest since DeltecRules sent me a link to it from the zeovit forum. I also have been having big problems with my BK 180 Mini. I will also add I did not get my skimmer from Premium Aquatics. I have 2 issues with the skimmer.
1. Klaus when people post to forums like here and at zeovit.com(where you have your own manufacturers forum) YOU NEED to post in the forum when there is activity. I am not the only one to have posted to these fourms looking for your assistance in setting up your skimmers. I also have sent PM and emailed from your website. All I have ever got from you was a deafening silence(and I know you have looked at these forums as you have posted into them from time to time after my questions have been asked....several times). I am sorry if this is blunt, but my customer service experience of your company has to rate as one of the lowest I have ever delt with.
2. Lack luster performance. To give everyone the history I initially had a skimmer which didn't produce any skimmate, set at the level that is recomended. It was great at producing condensation, nothing better then a very light yellow colour and only about 1/2 inch in the bottom of the collection cup after 1 week. If I raised the water level to 1/2 to 2/3's up the neck inside the collection cup I would then get some skimmate(weak tea colour and about 1/2 inch per day. One of the problems that was diagnosed was a fluctuating water level(only about 1/2 inch but enough to effect the performance), once this was fixed with an auto top off unit it started to skim more consistantly. The water level still needs to be set at this high level but it is now producing about 2 inch of weak tea coloured skimmate per 3 days. This is nothing like the performance I see other people having and you also refer to.
The mention of the grease seams like an interesting comment(I never got a manual). Something I observed when the skimmer was set as recomended was a head of dry foam would bulid up the neck and get wedged between the lid and the flange and not go anywhere. Any new foam building under it would then have nowhere to go and fall back into the skimmer. If I understand the comments so far, greasing this up would encourage the bubbles to pop and fall into the collection cup as bubbles or liquid(please correct me if I am off base here). If I have this right, this should unblock the flange and get more skimmate to form more easily?
I do have a question regarding the grease does it have to be a silicone based grease or could I use a petroleoum based grease for this purpose. Being an inert grease and outside the tank it shouldn't have any affect on my inhabitants but would it affect the plastic of the skimmer?
As mentioned earlier, I didn't receive any documentation with my skimmer, this is a very poor oversight when selling any product and could go a long way to solving most peoples problems before they escalate to accusations and nasty emails.
Lets all play nicely now.
Christopher
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catastrofe
New member
Re: Re: UPDATE ON MINI 200 THAT WAS HAVING PROBLEMS (DeltecRules)
Re: Re: UPDATE ON MINI 200 THAT WAS HAVING PROBLEMS (DeltecRules)
If you recall, Jeremy said that he would test your defective unit and post the results. I believe you'll find that post on page 17 of this thread or here:
Re: Re: UPDATE ON MINI 200 THAT WAS HAVING PROBLEMS (DeltecRules)
If you recall, Jeremy said that he would test your defective unit and post the results. I believe you'll find that post on page 17 of this thread or here:
"DeltecRules" Skimmer After 20 Hour Test
"DeltecRules" Skimmer After 20 Hour Test
Here are the pictures of "DeltecRules" skimmer that he sent back. I have still not been able to get the pump to duplicate the vibration he was having. I have had it running for 20hrs now, with no ill effects. The water level inside the skimmer is running right at the seam where the cup sets on the body. The skimmer built a nice thick foam head in a matter of less than an hour, and 20 hours into the test it's starting to produce some very dark colored skimmate.
Deltec- I'm sorry you feel the way you do. I have given this skimmer an honest test, and have not "cheated" by pouring in coffee or skimmate to make it look like it's working as you said I did in the "Vendor Experiences" thread you slammed me in.
You mentioned when we talked on the phone a couple days after you received the skimmer that the sump you had it in fluctuates in the water level due to evaporation. I told you the skimmer will not work in this setup, period. You explained you were going to have a sump built to accomodate this, and I believe you posted this info in this thread as well a couple of weeks ago or so. I have no doubt that if you had this skimmer installed correctly in a sump that does not fluctuate, it would have worked flawlessly
I am not calling you a liar about the vibration, however I can not get the pump to duplicate that issue you were having. You will see in the pictures that I have pulled the impeller out, and the magnet is just fine, no warping, gouging, etc. The motor block is just fine interanlly as well. The only thing I could think of is that the vibration may have been coming from a few shavings of plastic that were left behind from manufacturing. These could have eventually worked loose and cause some balancing issue, which caused the vibration.
I spoke with Klaus this morning on the phone, and he is very upset with the way you have approached this entire issue, as am I. You did not give us a fair shot at fixing the problem, and you most certainly did not have the skimmer installed as it should have been, which you were informed of this (sump fluctuation). At this point you are being refunded in full, and I will consider the entire issue with you closed. I'm sorry we were not able to help you with the issue, however I honestly feel like I was not given the chance to.
"DeltecRules" Skimmer After 20 Hour Test
Here are the pictures of "DeltecRules" skimmer that he sent back. I have still not been able to get the pump to duplicate the vibration he was having. I have had it running for 20hrs now, with no ill effects. The water level inside the skimmer is running right at the seam where the cup sets on the body. The skimmer built a nice thick foam head in a matter of less than an hour, and 20 hours into the test it's starting to produce some very dark colored skimmate.
Deltec- I'm sorry you feel the way you do. I have given this skimmer an honest test, and have not "cheated" by pouring in coffee or skimmate to make it look like it's working as you said I did in the "Vendor Experiences" thread you slammed me in.
You mentioned when we talked on the phone a couple days after you received the skimmer that the sump you had it in fluctuates in the water level due to evaporation. I told you the skimmer will not work in this setup, period. You explained you were going to have a sump built to accomodate this, and I believe you posted this info in this thread as well a couple of weeks ago or so. I have no doubt that if you had this skimmer installed correctly in a sump that does not fluctuate, it would have worked flawlessly
I am not calling you a liar about the vibration, however I can not get the pump to duplicate that issue you were having. You will see in the pictures that I have pulled the impeller out, and the magnet is just fine, no warping, gouging, etc. The motor block is just fine interanlly as well. The only thing I could think of is that the vibration may have been coming from a few shavings of plastic that were left behind from manufacturing. These could have eventually worked loose and cause some balancing issue, which caused the vibration.
I spoke with Klaus this morning on the phone, and he is very upset with the way you have approached this entire issue, as am I. You did not give us a fair shot at fixing the problem, and you most certainly did not have the skimmer installed as it should have been, which you were informed of this (sump fluctuation). At this point you are being refunded in full, and I will consider the entire issue with you closed. I'm sorry we were not able to help you with the issue, however I honestly feel like I was not given the chance to.
