C.b. Clownfish don't know anything....

[ginpang]

It's the first time in 20 years that I've had c.b. Clownfish and I want to support captive breeding efforts to limit pillage of the oceans and all but : Omg they're dumb.

It took 3 months to figure out what was an anemone and now they think the cleaner shrimps are attacking them!

Has this happened to any of you? The cleaners have been in for three days and for the last hour the clownfish are terrified of this tiny cleaner trying to latch on to them...

To those who've tank raised clownfish ... Do you think socializing your offsprings in a more " natural environment " or rather less sterile than bare plastic barrels for example would make them smarter?!

 

[hotelbravo]

I have two captive bred clowns that entered my anemone within seconds of being introduced into the tank. The ocellaris went in first and the percula followed it into the anemone. So not all are dumb dont judge the entirety of them over some

My cleaner shrimp does clean both their gills and no fuss from the clowns

 

[D-Nak]

A clownfish has the innate ability to detect the smell of a host anemone. If you give the clownfish its natural host, it will be in the anemone typically within minutes, and it doesn't matter if the fish is CB or wild. In other words, it's not a learned behavior.

 

[ginpang]

So I guess it's just mine [emoji53]

 

[shifty51008]

What clowns do you have and what type of anemone?

 

[ginpang]

Black snowflake ocellaris and I don't where they're from they were given to me ( as somebody's riddance because they took too long to start spawning)
The nem 's a bubble tip and I know they're not a natural host and I was very aware they could choose to never go in it. But in the ten years I worked with a pet store that did their own imports, I rarely encountered a clownfish turning down a bbt nem .
It's rather the fear of the cleaners yesterday that started me ranting! Lol!

 

[ThRoewer]

A clownfish has the innate ability to detect the smell of a host anemone. If you give the clownfish its natural host, it will be in the anemone typically within minutes, and it doesn't matter if the fish is CB or wild. In other words, it's not a learned behavior.

There are actually some studies that point into the opposite direction: which anemone "smell" to go for is something the larva learn before they hatch.
There is definitely also a species specific genetic/instinct component, but the preference is to go for exactly the kind of anemone their parent were in.

 

[ginpang]

C.b. Clownfish don't know anything....

There are actually some studies that point into the opposite direction: which anemone "smell" to go for is something the larva learn before they hatch.

There is definitely also a species specific genetic/instinct component, but the preference is to go for exactly the kind of anemone their parent were in.

Ok... So it would be interesting to know what that would do to many generations of captive bred clownfish in clay pots???

 

[DanDashO]

C.b. Clownfish don't know anything....

There are actually some studies that point into the opposite direction: which anemone "smell" to go for is something the larva learn before they hatch.

This would be an interesting study. My ocellaris spawn right underneath a BTA. Would their offspring more quickly recognize a BTA than a wild caught ocellaris?

Now I need another tank...

 

[Brisk]

instinct should take over... eventually

 

[Saltwaternooby]

My clowns(percula) i raised were spawned near a bta and immediatly(well within a few minutes) host bta and carpets no problem.

The parents on the other hand took a few months to host a bta.

 

[DanDashO]

My clowns(percula) i raised were spawned near a bta and immediatly(well within a few minutes) host bta and carpets no problem.

The parents on the other hand took a few months to host a bta.

That's exactly what I was wondering. My pair of ocellaris took to their BTA in about a week.

 

[ginpang]

Interesting indeed ... Though BTA 's are " easy " per say they'll let anyone who's willing to go in.... [emoji40] it might be interesting to try this with uncommon associations like having a batch of perculas hatch under h. Aurora or something.