Caribbean Biotope Seagrass Tank

Hi, I've been tagging along with this thread for a while and want to say you have a beautiful tank. Just thought I'd throw my two cents in about determining the difference between male and female mollies. At two inches you should definitely be able to determine gender not by looking at the dorsal fin but at the anal fin. Females will have a full/normal anal fin and the males have a "stick", more or less, called a gonipodium. Hopefully this helps you with determining their genders. Cheers!
 

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Wow Chasmodes, I'm jealous! I've studied that tank in his book, but I've never seen it personally.

The pike blennies are so cool! I've got them both eating well with frozen mysis. Things get competitive at feeding time in the QT, but they hold there own, despite not being as fast as the others. I'm really looking forward to getting tham all in the display!
 
It really was an amazing tank. An LFS that no longer exists had a similar smaller scale mechanism with a bucket dump type wave maker. Those two tanks were my favorite tanks to visit back then. Wave makers have come a long way since then!

There was another public aquarium in the basement of the Dept. of Commerce building that has since closed that had some nice saltwater biotope aquariums, but nothing like Walter Adey's tank. It was quite unique at the time.
 
Thanks eastlake, and welcome! It's great to hear from someone new. I appreciate the reminder about the anal fin. Excellent picture, showing the difference, too. I forgot about that. I'm going to go take a look right now to see if they show a difference.

OK, so I took a look. First of all, they're really more like an inch and a half, and that's only the biggest four or five, so not much to see just yet. I did see one or two showing a gonipodium though, as well as some difference in the dorsal. From my group at least, it looks like those two indicators of 'maleness' come in at about the same time. But I agree with you that the anal fin is more obvious. Very helpful!

Thanks also for the tank compliment. It's certainly nowhere near its' full glory from a few months ago, but I like how it's coming back in the more focused direction I've chosen.

I look forward to hearing from you again!
 
I'm glad it was helpful and you're tank is a very interesting one to follow as I haven't really ever seen, certainly not in person, a marine aquarium with a focus on plants and algae, and if I see a place where I can slip in a relevant comment I will certainly do so :). I liked the gramma harem a lot, they're one of my favorite fish, maybe the Cuban gramma will be more widely captive bred or available with the opening of Cuba's borders when/if you decide to do another group of them.
 
I still like the 'analog' dump buckets, in all their low-tech glory. Probably a bit noisy for home use though. I would love to figure out a way to get some wave action in my tank. My old Tunze classic powerhead that's hidden in the fake mangrove can be set to pulse, but the sound of it going up and down is too annoying.

The drop off tank style is cool too, but I will never go deeper than twenty four inches again. Too hard to clean.

Any updates for you, Chasmodes?
 
Eastlake, please feel free to comment and ask questions anytime. It's pretty quiet these days, down here in the macro section, so it's great to get posts. Yep, the marine planted tank keeper is a rare breed of weirdo, and I'm up there with the weirdest…

I miss my gramma harem a lot, and plan to do another one, once it's appropriate to do so. They're so freaking awesome in a group like that! Those cuban grammas are gorgeous. I haven't seen them for sale, but I imagine they're pricey!

Cheers!
 
No updates Michael, as I've been on fishin' trips the past three weekends :) On one of them, I took my new collecting dip net and checked out some potential collecting spots. I also had a limited amount of time. They turned out to be a bust (no blennies there, wrong habitat), but I found other potential ones that I'll try and check out this weekend. I still have a lot to do with my tank, but am slowly getting things done. I have all of my equipment purchased, just need to get it done. It's tough to work on a fish tank if I'm away on fishing trips
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Any updates? How is the tank going?

I spent Father's Day with my daughter on a sampling trip, collecting benthic brackish species but not for an aquarium, rather, for a scientific study. But, I also used this as an opportunity to scout out collecting spots for blennies and other stuff that will go in my tank. The trip this time was a success. You can read the full report if you want on the NANFA page, but one picture for me is worth a thousand words. The meat and the salad:
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Ain't he (or she) cute? It was the only blenny that we caught, a juvenile Chasmodes bosquianus (striped blenny). It was only about 1.3 cm long at the most. We also caught plenty of other species (a four-spined stickleback, naked gobies and small skilletfish among them). I so wanted to bring them all home and quickly set up a 10 gallon tank for them, but didn't want to put them through a cycle of stress. I think that I'll set up the 10 gallon this week. We took specific gravity measurements at each place, so I know that I can start a tank up with those parameters.

Notice the macro algae? We found a ton of Ulva, some Gracilaria sp. and another type of green macro that I'm not sure of yet. I'm very excited about the macros too.
 
Home again. I've been traveling in Europe for the first time. Lovely trip, and it's nice to get home. I was gone for a little over two weeks.

I was expecting an occasional feeding by some friends we thought were going to house sit, but it appears they never came. At first look, I see no pike blennies. Everyone else looks good. The display needs a little tidying as expected, with chaeto popping up and a pair of aiptasias. It looks like new plant growth was limited, without daily dosing. Same with the sponges and sea squirts. I went ahead and dosed silicate for them, but nothing else yet for the plants until after I tidy.

I'll have to double check the date, but I expect the new blennies to be ready for display introduction. As preparation for that, I'm fashioning a new plastic bottle fish trap for some of the mollies. I want to reduce their numbers before adding the newbies-probably down to one male and four females or so. We'll see how it goes. Another idea would be to keep only males in the display, to control population. Maybe keep only females in the QT, to keep it's bio-capacity ready for new residents.

The QT will need to be cleaned up too.

I'm toying around with the idea of adding more light to the display. I've got another spider light reflector and a compact fluorescent bulb that fits, so I could give that a try. This would likely trigger my needing to bring my chiller online which I haven't used since my reef days, years ago. This could be tricky, with limited hidden space. The idea with adding a light would be to see if I can get better growth from the seagrasses. I would still plan to keep the right end of the tank unlit, as it gives me a nice, gradient of lighting there and, in a weightless environment, simulates depth. I'm thinking I may set up the second fixture mirroring the halide setup, with it tilted as well. I am able to slide the fixtures independently left and right, so I'll have some flexibility. Here's a quick and dirty sketch:


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So this would be to supplement the light, but not to expand its coverage. I think it's a worthy experiment. With a 400 watt halide going into a 30 inch deep tank with no mechanical filtration, It would seem there's room for more light.

Thoughts anyone?
 
Home again. I've been traveling in Europe for the first time. Lovely trip, and it's nice to get home. I was gone for a little over two weeks.

I was expecting an occasional feeding by some friends we thought were going to house sit, but it appears they never came. At first look, I see no pike blennies. Everyone else looks good. The display needs a little tidying as expected, with chaeto popping up and a pair of aiptasias. It looks like new plant growth was limited, without daily dosing. Same with the sponges and sea squirts. I went ahead and dosed silicate for them, but nothing else yet for the plants until after I tidy.

I'll have to double check the date, but I expect the new blennies to be ready for display introduction. As preparation for that, I'm fashioning a new plastic bottle fish trap for some of the mollies. I want to reduce their numbers before adding the newbies-probably down to one male and four females or so. We'll see how it goes. Another idea would be to keep only males in the display, to control population. Maybe keep only females in the QT, to keep it's bio-capacity ready for new residents.

The QT will need to be cleaned up too.

I'm toying around with the idea of adding more light to the display. I've got another spider light reflector and a compact fluorescent bulb that fits, so I could give that a try. This would likely trigger my needing to bring my chiller online which I haven't used since my reef days, years ago. This could be tricky, with limited hidden space. The idea with adding a light would be to see if I can get better growth from the seagrasses. I would still plan to keep the right end of the tank unlit, as it gives me a nice, gradient of lighting there and, in a weightless environment, simulates depth. I'm thinking I may set up the second fixture mirroring the halide setup, with it tilted as well. I am able to slide the fixtures independently left and right, so I'll have some flexibility. Here's a quick and dirty sketch:


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So this would be to supplement the light, but not to expand its coverage. I think it's a worthy experiment. With a 400 watt halide going into a 30 inch deep tank with no mechanical filtration, It would seem there's room for more light.

Thoughts anyone?

Do you think you'll get any appreciable added light or benefit with a CF light competing against 400 watts of Metal Halide?

What part of Europe did you visit? Did you ride bikes or do any extreme outdoor sports?
 
Yes, I do think I'll get appreciable benefit. The light is a 400 watt equivalent, compact fluorescent, so it's a decent light on its own. With the grasses' constant undulation in the current, I think this opens up more lit plant surface. As for competing with the halide, I'm not aiming to compete as much as supplement. It would also provide another step in light ramp up/down levels.

I went to London, Venice and Croatia. All three places, on the sea. No extreme sports (this time). I did some swimming. I got back on the bike yesterday, for a 'welcome home' ride in oven-like conditions.
 
I had success with the new fish trap and caught all but six of the mollies. This is looking like a good group, with various sizes. I can adjust their numbers further later, when I can sex them all.

I should be able to get the new guys transferred tomorrow. That should be interesting!
 
Thanks for the updates! I admit, I was beginning to have Caribbean Biotop Seagrass-Mangrove Mudbank Lagoon withdrawal symptoms! :fish1: :p I'm looking forward to seeing how your lighting changes work out. Any sign of the pike blennies?

Sounds like an awesome vacation!
 
My pleasure! No sign of the pike blennies, unfortunately.

With the lighting, I was thinking about everything I was doing to benefit the grasses, and if there was anything else I could do. As far as I know, I've got all the nutrient bases covered, so what does that leave? I've read that few of us ever really approach the light levels experienced by our charges in their natural environment. So I was thinking I could probably use more light. I already have everything I need, so it's not a big risk to give it a try. If I don't like it, or the results of using it, I will stop. So, it's an experiment of sorts, to see if there's any benefit.

I do expect that it will result in an increased growth rate in the seagrasses. It just seems to me that if I'm providing everything they need, they would grow faster, and by process of elimination, I'm guessing that more light could the key. We'll see!

If all goes well, I should be introducing all the new blennies today!
 
Sorry to hear about the pike blennies. It's hard to find good house sitters, even harder to find ones that'll take care of aquariums properly. Just thought I'd chime in about elevated tank temperature with the addition of another light. Do you have space to install some computer cooling fans? A friend of mine is running three halides over a stock 265 glass tank and the tank rarely gets over 76*F and all he's running for cooling purposes are those three fans blowing over the top of the tank. Assuming they increase evaporation I would also venture to guess that they use less energy and take up less space than a chiller.
 
Thanks eastlake. Those fish are so cool, I really hate to lose them. It sucks confessing fish losses. It seems I've had a rash of them lately.

Good call on the fans. I have two I've been using for years. One blows in, the other blows out. It might be a good idea to add a couple more. I don't even have the energy to THINK about setting up the chiller!

I meant to get the all the new blennies out of QT and into the display yesterday, but I got a bit of a neck ache, so I bailed. I feel better this morning so hopefully I'll get it done.
 
Thanks Chasmodes!

Well, the new blennies are in the display. The two biggest sailfin blennies have set up shop right in front, which is nice. The barnacle blennies are scattered about. They take a while to settle down. I have seen them in the barnacle shells a few times. I'll need to prune back the grasilaria in front of it, for a better view.

Dig Daddy 2.0 (the last survivor of the original seven royal grammas) has had the back wall all to himself for months. He's not too keen on being invaded by the tiny blennies. He has chased off the ones he spots. He's pretty big. He could easily eat one…
 
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