invincible569
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OH MY!! I got to have a couple of these! Tell us more about them!
Check out these rad anemones!!!!
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sonofgaladriel
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Take a look at this one!
steveweast
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8507730#post8507730 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sonofgaladriel
Take a look at this one!
Looks like a common waratah anemone from southern Australia to me. I have several of them in my cold tank. They are temperate and mouth brooders....I little baby ones everywhere.
http://www.faunanet.gov.au/wos/factfile.cfm?Fact_ID=26
canesfan44
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I just saw that on e-bay and was gonna put the link up here, but someone already did it. It looks kinda like the, so far, unidentified anemones, but it's hard to tell from the pick if it has all those tiny little bumps I was talking about, but it is pretty damn nice-looking.
BonsaiNut
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Thanks to Dr. Shick, Dr. Fautin, and Dr. Hausserman with help on identifying this anemone. It appears to be the blue morph of Phymactis papillosa, which is found off the coast of Chile.
You can read a detailed paper about P. papillosa here:
http://www.anthozoa.com/Documents/Phymactis-ZM78-02-(23)-2004.pdf
The biggest care question will involve water temp. For most of their range this is a cold-water anemone. I don't know where the anemone was collected, but when I think of remote islands where no one lives off the coast of Chile, I think of the Galapagos. P. papillosa occurs there, but I don't know if the blue morph does. The average surface water temp at the Galapagos islands ranges from 66 in the cool season to 76 in the warm season. Pretty much everything else in Chile will be south (and colder) than this.
You can read a detailed paper about P. papillosa here:
http://www.anthozoa.com/Documents/Phymactis-ZM78-02-(23)-2004.pdf
The biggest care question will involve water temp. For most of their range this is a cold-water anemone. I don't know where the anemone was collected, but when I think of remote islands where no one lives off the coast of Chile, I think of the Galapagos. P. papillosa occurs there, but I don't know if the blue morph does. The average surface water temp at the Galapagos islands ranges from 66 in the cool season to 76 in the warm season. Pretty much everything else in Chile will be south (and colder) than this.
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invincible569
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not bad if its 66 to 76.
sonofgaladriel
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BonsaiNut- You are the man! Thanks for that information.
BonsaiNut
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The red anemone, also posted at the beginning of this thread, is Phymanthea pluvia. It is common from Chile through southern Peru. Both of these anemones are very commonly found on the shore, and are very hardy since they often grow on tidal flats that are completely exposed at low tide (i.e. they are often above water and have to survive in dry conditions). According to Dr. Haeussermann, they would be good candidates for keeping in an aquarium as long as you keep temp low and flow high (since they live in the intertidal zone - aka waves). She questions the 76-80 degree range; in Chile she says they prefer water that is 54-57 F.
As far as reproduction goes, she says they primarily produce via longitudinal fission (commonly) or more rarely sexually versus release of eggs and sperm into the water. She is not aware of them releasing fully-developed juveniles.
For feeding, she recommends small crabs or pieces of mussels. They do not have zooxanthellae, so they are a low-light (or no light) invert.
She also mentioned that though you might take a boat out somewhere to find these anemones, they can be collected easy enough just by walking along the coast of Chile.
As far as reproduction goes, she says they primarily produce via longitudinal fission (commonly) or more rarely sexually versus release of eggs and sperm into the water. She is not aware of them releasing fully-developed juveniles.
For feeding, she recommends small crabs or pieces of mussels. They do not have zooxanthellae, so they are a low-light (or no light) invert.
She also mentioned that though you might take a boat out somewhere to find these anemones, they can be collected easy enough just by walking along the coast of Chile.
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phender
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See how much nicer everthing is when there are no secrets.
Thank you BonsaiNut.
Those are obviously the anemones in question and now people can make an informed decision as to whether or not they should pay close to $200 on a speciman that may or may not be suited to their tanks.
Thank you BonsaiNut.
Those are obviously the anemones in question and now people can make an informed decision as to whether or not they should pay close to $200 on a speciman that may or may not be suited to their tanks.
Swanwillow
goby girl
I wonder what type of clowns that they could collect there 
BonsaiNut
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Here is the third "new" anemone posted on his web site:
This one is Oulactis concinnata, also from Southern Peru / Chile. I will quote Dr. Häussermann here:
I am quite sure they are from Chile or Peru, but they should tell people this since they prefer colder water (at least they come from this). They are all intertidal animals, too, thus somewhat rubust, but I would still recommend a temperate aquarium for them.
I hope I am not upsetting people by posting this, but I wanted everyone to know the identification and habitat. What you do with this information from this point forward is completely up to you.
This one is Oulactis concinnata, also from Southern Peru / Chile. I will quote Dr. Häussermann here:
I am quite sure they are from Chile or Peru, but they should tell people this since they prefer colder water (at least they come from this). They are all intertidal animals, too, thus somewhat rubust, but I would still recommend a temperate aquarium for them.
I hope I am not upsetting people by posting this, but I wanted everyone to know the identification and habitat. What you do with this information from this point forward is completely up to you.
Did you guys catch St. Helena in the Atlantic was a possible location of Phymactis papillosa or Phymanthea pluvia or both 
Still a fairly cool water diving location, but might help explain some similar looking Atlantic specimens we thought might be Phymactis or Telmatactis.
Still a fairly cool water diving location, but might help explain some similar looking Atlantic specimens we thought might be Phymactis or Telmatactis.
RicordiaFever
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Hey Bonsainut it's a pleasure to read all your information collected and the time you spent trying to acquire it. There is no intention to mislead or keep secrets from anyone.
I didn't even start this thread, This thread was created to research what you have found and i give you props for that. It's cool to know every little detail on these.
Yes the water is cold and always recommend a temperate tank, but we have researched in our facility with trained Marine Biologist in the area where they are collected which is the Southern Pacific and have adapted them very well. They will tolerate higher temp conditions, but pushing there normal conditions is always a risk, just like every thing in this hobby. We are dealing with live animals.
Bonasinut thanks for all the adive and research.
Also that is why we have a contact page for anyone who would like to talk live and ask any questions when dealing with these anemones.
I didn't even start this thread, This thread was created to research what you have found and i give you props for that. It's cool to know every little detail on these.
Yes the water is cold and always recommend a temperate tank, but we have researched in our facility with trained Marine Biologist in the area where they are collected which is the Southern Pacific and have adapted them very well. They will tolerate higher temp conditions, but pushing there normal conditions is always a risk, just like every thing in this hobby. We are dealing with live animals.
Bonasinut thanks for all the adive and research.
Also that is why we have a contact page for anyone who would like to talk live and ask any questions when dealing with these anemones.
BonsaiNut
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Hey RicordiaFever - I appreciate you coming to the board and talking. This is not a vendor board (or thread) so I am not at all interested in talking about your business (which I hope you do well at). I am just interested in these animals, providing the best care for them, and learning a little something along the way. As I said at the start of the thread, I know very little about temperate anemones, and so now I know very little plus a tiny bit
Hopefully this information will help you and anyone else care for these great creatures. The more information we have, the better.
Speaking of information, is there any reason why you can't share with us EXACTLY where these come from? It's not like I'm going to hop on a plane to Chile or anything. However it would be interesting to note if you are collecting these somewhere outside of their reported range of habitat (perhaps in warmer waters?).
BonsaiNut
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One other bit of info from Dr. Häussermann:
"Phymactis is very mobile if she does not like her place in the aquarium. Summersaulting she can cross the entire aquarium in a night and hurt or kill other animals with her acrorhagi. This might be a danger."
I think we have all lived with anemones that are mobile when unhappy (H. magnifica comes to mind), but people might want to watch these guys when first acclimating. They are rock anemones for sure (living in intertidal areas that are exposed at low tide) so hopefully they will settle onto a rock in a nice high flow area and stay there
"Phymactis is very mobile if she does not like her place in the aquarium. Summersaulting she can cross the entire aquarium in a night and hurt or kill other animals with her acrorhagi. This might be a danger."
I think we have all lived with anemones that are mobile when unhappy (H. magnifica comes to mind), but people might want to watch these guys when first acclimating. They are rock anemones for sure (living in intertidal areas that are exposed at low tide) so hopefully they will settle onto a rock in a nice high flow area and stay there
phender
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Then why didn't you just write this short paragraph in your first post, instead of the much longer post that didn't tell us anything useful. Instead you gave us the wrong scientific name (I assume your trained biologist knows the proper name) and you made it sound like they were from the Carribean.
RicordiaFever
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No one ever asked in the begining, they jumped on the bashing bandwagon, which is seems you are still carrying on with. Why don't you ask some questions that belong to the thread like the moderators already stated, and stop with the smart remarks, i hope you don't treat your students like that.
phender
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What do these two statements mean? To me this first statement says, all my anemones come from the same place. They are all flower type anemones. Flower anemones are from the Carribean. In this statement you are telling us that the anemones are from the Carribean. This is something you know isn't true.
The second statement says that the correct name is Aquina Actinia. OK maybe you meant Actinia equina, but thats not the correct name either.
All of the discussion was based on finding out what type of anemones these were and where they were from. You had that information, but didn't come forth with it until after BonsaiNut did all the research(and almost all the anemones were sold). You knew they were cold water anemones that you have tried to acclimate to tropical temperatures, but you withheld that information and said something like quit worrying about the little stuff and just enjoy the anemones.
So yes, if my students misrepresented the facts and made misleading statements on purpose, then I would treat them exactly like I am treating you.
RicordiaFever
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Your last two post have been reported to the moderators.
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