Cloakerpoked's NEW 60 gallon thread

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OK, well a few people have been asking or wondering about what I am up to, so here's the back story. I apologize there are no pictures, I'm hoping to have them by Sunday. Since there's no Steelers that day, I should have a pretty open day.

I had to tear down my tank temporarily for a few reasons, the biggest of them being that I was doing some re-modeling in the living room, that would entail a lot of painting and a lot of spackeling/sanding. Since these activities are not conducive to fish tank health, and I had some other things I wanted to tackle as well, down the tank went and frags loaded up a temporary system set up in my bedroom. That was August.

Fast Forward to November. The remodeling was finally wrapping up, and the tank was sitting with new dry BRS rock attached to an eggcrate base to keep it from moving. I got the tank back in it's place, and added water around Thanksgiving as well as putting the old LR in the sump and my maroon clown who I've had for going on 5 years. I decided to use new LR because aiptasia and hair algae had become a significant problem. The rocks were also huge (going on 30 lbs each) and just took up too much space. My new design doesn't give a lot more room for coral mounting, but it does for growth, so I'm excited about that. Now I just have to wait for it to cycle.

January. The wife has the bug to re-arrange the bedroom, but this fishy smelling bright thing is sitting in the way. I have the bug to get the tank back up and running, so all plans converge and into the tank goes all my livestock. I can't believe how much I had in my temporary system (30 gallon). A lot of it is brown right now from having expelled a lot of the zoazanthelle, but everything is showing good polyp extension, and I believe it will come back. There have been a few equipment upgrades as well.

Flow is now run by 3 K3 powerheads and 2 K2 Evo powerheads. Its a big much in a few zones, and has blasted the tips off one of my birdsnests but it'll adjust. The tissue recession has stopped, so it's not something I'm worried about.

Return is now run by a Mag5 utility pump rather than a Quiet One whatever it was. It's a much faster turn-over.

Drain and returns are now plumbed much differently. Eventually, there will be 2 20 gallon tanks and a 30 gallon tank plumbed into this system. That is to keep my additional 130 pounds of live rock live, have a frag system, and hopefully an anemone/clown fish tank. I can also run water through the chiller or by-pass it in the primary return line.

And the big ones...I got an ASM G2 skimmer for free on a tank I tore down for work. I'm really excited about it, but right now it is in the sump, where the water level fluxuates, and it hasn't had the gate valve mod yet, so these are in works. It will eventually be in the 30 gallon, but getting the whole system together is going to be a process on the order of months. I also just ordered a Lumen Bright 3 Mini Wide SE Mogul Base Pendant from Dave's Aquastock to replace my current batwing reflector. It will require a concession and elimination of the canopy as it is currently configured, but this is a concession I have made peace with. The reflector will hopefully get around my needing to suppliment the tank with some form of alternative light source (i.e. t-5) to better light the perimeters of the tank.

Dang, if you're still reading this, sorry that I got so long-winded. It's just difficult to compress the last 5 months any other way. Pics Sunday! :bounce3: (and isn't that really what we really care about)
 
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Well it is about time. Should have just remodelled around a 120 or 180. That would have been a better story
 
There are a few concerns, not the least of them being the weight. Although I suppose after I'm done, I'll be having that much weight anyway :) I have a max of 5 feet, so 120 would've been the biggest I can go. This tank was a gift from my wife about 14 months ago, so in order for everything to stay in harmony (and keep her interested in what I'm doing) this is the tank I have, and will keep for the foreseeable future.
 
Wet Pets has a 150 that is a square shape. Not sure of size but you could use (her) tank as a SUMP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I don't like deep tanks. The idea of using a 400w halide makes me cringe. The thought that's that's only half of what I need horrifies me :) Not to mention that with 2x6 floor joists, there's no way that's gonna work safely.
 
hmmm.... should I be worried about that in my house? I will have to look at the floor joist - my 180 is not that deep = 30" if I remember correctly. It is 48" long and about 30" front to back. Does that work out to 180 gallons= 30 x 30 x 48 = ???
 
187 by a calculation

....i left you pm a little while ago
hmmm.... should I be worried about that in my house? I will have to look at the floor joist - my 180 is not that deep = 30" if I remember correctly. It is 48" long and about 30" front to back. Does that work out to 180 gallons= 30 x 30 x 48 = ???
 
to me a 30" tank would require 400w halides. I know probably using radiums would be fine, but that won't be my route. I have fallen in love with the Marineland deep dimension tanks, and will probably eventually upgrade to one of there's. The 36" from front to back opens up so many possibilities for aquascaping.

Your glass is so thick too due to the tank being a rimless that I'd be super concerned about the weight of that beast. You could support any kind of floor joist with a beam or two and those metal supports they sell at Home Depot for about $50 each. Still, you're looking at an additional cost of about $300 to stabilize the floor. My problem is that where I want the tank to go is directly on top of my oil tanks, so it's just not possible to support the floor the way I'd need to. Pics coming after football when my lights come on.
 
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This was the tank as it was. It is no longer this way due to my upgraded pendant. That pic in a bit.

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This is the power center of the tank. My ballast used to lay on the floor, but I like it better up off the ground anyway. It is run by a DJ powerstrip. I find this to be the easiest and most convenient way to power multiple items. For power consumption purposes, the tank runs on two separate circuits, both GFCI protected. I run a chiller, so I want that and my halides to run on opposite circuits to prevent something from tripping a GFI or the whole breaker. Eventually I'll get all these cords cleaned up so that the whole thing is more aesthetic than it is now.

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There's the new skimmer, my ASM G2. I will eventually do the full gate valve mod (right now it's just a ball valve) and probably buy the needle wheel for it as well. It will eventually run in a 30 gallon rock storage container that will sit beside the tank, but for now it's just in the sump. Due to evaporation and changing water levels, it constantly needs tweaked to run properly.

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The plumbing was done to allow for expansion of the system when I'm ready. The drain goes through a cross with ball valves, unions, and barbs on all three divergent points. Right now it's draining into the sump through the bottom. I will be able to close that valve and divert it out either side to side tanks that will house my frag tank and anemone tank eventually. That's hopefully done before summer. The return also allows for a bypass of my chiller (like now) if I ever have it offline for some reason.

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The aquascaping is a similar size to the old tank, but with a sizeable hole in the middle and less height on the left side. This will allow me more rock surface than previously. I also added 30 lbs of aragonite sand to the display. The rock structure is ziptied to eggcrate laying flat on the bottom before the sand was put in. It is held together with zipties, marine epoxy, and acrylic rods.

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The warcoral I won in the raffle December 2009. Back then it was a little booger of about 3 heads. As you can see, it needs to color back up after being moved into my system. This is a common theme with most of my SPS and LPS due to my stupidity in not checking the parameters before moving the stuff into the tank. You'd think that with 1 1/2 months to prepare the tank, I'd have thought of that beforehand, but I did not. Since I had a quarter bucket of Instant Ocean salt laying around instead of Reefcrystals, I had used that to start this tank, and as a result, my calcium and magnesium were extremely low. (about 325 and 1100 respectively) This browned out my coral extensively and I spent about a week slowly bringing these parameters into check.

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My Grandma Christmas money bought me this:

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Which looks like this:

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It isn't quite hanging straight just yet, but that should be a relatively easy fix. The problem is that the hanging screws are only in two places, and the mogul socket with the cord unbalances the whole shebang.

It definitely adds an airy feel to the top of the tank, which I do like for the most part. I'm not at all happy about the 1x3 hanging from the ceiling, but there was no good way to do it. I don't have a drywall ceiling, so I had to screw into the furring strips up there to hold my ceiling in place. This required an approach that was not balanced since I didn't have the forsight to center my tank on my invisible ceiling supports. I do feel much more secure about this system, and may eventually build an ornamental holder that will be centered with the tank and as secure as this one is, but for now, this will do. I can tell a HUGE difference between this reflector and the old batwing one that I was using, and as a consequence of this, I have halved my light cycle and will slowly bump it back up.

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Looking good Cloaker -love the hanging light fixture look ( Grandma was generous) - other than if you are trying to watch TV in the same room. Then the reflection may be ugly - hence I have my lights in a canopy. I doubt I will be using 400 watt halides for my 180 -if I ever get it up. I plan on staying with VHO and T5's that I have on my 90 ( with some expansions = 4 48" T5's in stead of 2 which is what I am currently using) - I will use the rock work to have the light hungry coral closer to the lights, and the depth of the tank for softies, low light corals, fish and neat rock work.
 
My room is TVless so it works out well, although actually the overspill isn't as bad as you might think. I suppose if it were within a 45 degree angle of where I was trying to view the TV it would be a problem, but any more than that and I'd be ok.
 
Looking good Nate! I like the pendant version of those. I burnt several coral when I initially switched to the lumenbrights. I think right now my bulbs are like 24" off of the water surface and I still had to move a few pieces lower.
 
I cut my light cycle back to 4 hours for now. Stuff is showing signs of coloring up, although that's mostly due to my getting my parameters under control I think. I'm very encouraged by the whole process so far, and as you said, the pendant is really slick.

I've successfully added a Leopard Wrasse, Tailspot Blenny, and Arc-eyed Hawkfish to my fishy family. :) Maybe one day I'll get pics of them.
 
He's out every day, eats like a pig, and stays away from the top, so I think he's doing pretty well. I've had him about 2 weeks now.
 
It is time for some better pictures. How much better (of course) is relative to the camera, and I gotta say that my camera, for all it's megapixels and bells and whistles really struggles with my tank right now. That said, every once in a while, I get lucky and it gets a good picture. One of these days, playing around in all the manual settings, I'm going to figure out what I have to do to get a good picture more frequently (without buying an SLR anyway)

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As stated, I won that cynarina or whatever it was in the raffle, but there isn't really a good picture of it, and it looks like crap right now anyway since it's a quarter of a whole coral. I am not noticing any unhealthy tissue though, so that's a good sign
 
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