Clown Issues...
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Captain Quirk
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A bit late to ask, but I'd have done the formalin in freshwater.
Don't want to do the FW dip now as the animal is probably already stressed enough. Remember, stressing it even more will do more damage than the disease probably would...
Quarantine him, keep him calm. Dark, quiet surroundings. This guy sounds like he's got a bit of a battle ahead of him...
Don't want to do the FW dip now as the animal is probably already stressed enough. Remember, stressing it even more will do more damage than the disease probably would...
Quarantine him, keep him calm. Dark, quiet surroundings. This guy sounds like he's got a bit of a battle ahead of him...
818
New member
Yes. You can kill him with that RID ICH.
Youll need to throw in some mini powerheads for agitation, and or some mini filters as its really toxic when a fish is in it too long.
I once killed 5 oscars like that. You should have some mini HOB filters with carbon in them to clean it out. RID ICH is to complicated to use...
Youll need to throw in some mini powerheads for agitation, and or some mini filters as its really toxic when a fish is in it too long.
I once killed 5 oscars like that. You should have some mini HOB filters with carbon in them to clean it out. RID ICH is to complicated to use...
salt e
In Memoriam
he does not have a small tank for QT. i just got home...the fish saw me and swam to the surface when i removed the towel that was covering him. i rinsed the fish with water from the tank and put him back in... the temp was close to the same as the temp in the tank... so total the fish was in there about 1 hour and 20 mins. those little "White Scabs" that were on the side of the fish have apparently fallen off... now it just looks kinna like a small wound. is that what i should have been expecting to happen?
NicoleC
New member
Yes, anything wet can bring in disease and parasites. Everything wet that is not a fish should be QT'd a minimum of 4 weeks in a fishless tank. All fish should be QT'd in a bare tank (no live rock, but with places to hid like PVC tubes and plastic plants.
NEVER LEAVE A FISH IN A DIP UNATTENDED! EVER!
It sounds like brook; might be marine velvet or ich. Probably brook with the apparent quick onset. 11% formalin for 30 minutes will literally burn the skin off a fish so yes, the scabs will fall off without necessarily affecting a cure.
How to test for Marine Velvet aka Amyloodinium:
http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/oamasfwdiptest.html
(Do not do this tonight, the fish is already very stressed - use the water you have now.)
How to treat marine velvet:
http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/amyloodinium.html
(Requires very careful use of copper.)
How to ID and treat brooklynella:
http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/brooklynella.html
(Except you need daily treatments for several days.)
The fish must be moved to a QT tank for treatment. Before the excuses begin, lets be clear:
If you do not treat properly and use a QT, the fish will continue to be reinfected in the main tank and will never get cured and will die.
If you do not treat correctly, the fish will die.
If there are other fish and they are not treated for velvet (if the dip test gives that as a diagnosis), the other fish will become infected and die.
Both copper and Formalin can be deadly if used incorrectly, but used correctly will affect a cure.
Brooklynella usually kills in days by the time an infected fish gets to a consumer. Time is of the essence.
NEVER LEAVE A FISH IN A DIP UNATTENDED! EVER!
It sounds like brook; might be marine velvet or ich. Probably brook with the apparent quick onset. 11% formalin for 30 minutes will literally burn the skin off a fish so yes, the scabs will fall off without necessarily affecting a cure.
How to test for Marine Velvet aka Amyloodinium:
http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/oamasfwdiptest.html
(Do not do this tonight, the fish is already very stressed - use the water you have now.)
How to treat marine velvet:
http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/amyloodinium.html
(Requires very careful use of copper.)
How to ID and treat brooklynella:
http://www.petsforum.com/personal/trevor-jones/brooklynella.html
(Except you need daily treatments for several days.)
The fish must be moved to a QT tank for treatment. Before the excuses begin, lets be clear:
If you do not treat properly and use a QT, the fish will continue to be reinfected in the main tank and will never get cured and will die.
If you do not treat correctly, the fish will die.
If there are other fish and they are not treated for velvet (if the dip test gives that as a diagnosis), the other fish will become infected and die.
Both copper and Formalin can be deadly if used incorrectly, but used correctly will affect a cure.
Brooklynella usually kills in days by the time an infected fish gets to a consumer. Time is of the essence.
salt e
In Memoriam
i will be calling around tomorrow for the Formalin... if i can not find any...does anyone in the OC or surrounding areas have any Formalin they might be able to spare...thank you again Nicole for your help... My GF's sisters BF really loves this Clown... i kinna feel to blame since we brought home the small Clarkii the day of RAP and it infected the main tank..
xtm
Active member
Since you're only in Torrance, have you tried Jeff's in Gardena? Give him a call and ask first if he carries this Formalin stuff. www.exoticfish.com He is a very helpful guy.
sorry I couldn't be of much help... I'm mostly a Tang guy and know very little about Clowns
sorry I couldn't be of much help... I'm mostly a Tang guy and know very little about Clowns
Captain Quirk
New member
Uh... Don't you think it might be a good idea to just cough up the cash and get yourself a QT, anyway?
Nicole, great post.
Nicole, great post.
reefpeep2004
Member
I bought mine at Pacific Reef. I gave a whole bottle to someone at Reef-a-palooza. You might start a thread, Looking for Formalin.
salt e
In Memoriam
just called Pacific...they got it...i will be going to get is soon...ok...now i have a few Q: and A: i need to clear up b4 starting the treatment since i was pretty much @s$ backwards yesterday...should i do the Formalin bath in FW or SW... if i do the bath in SW...when i move the fish to the QT tank...that tank should have NO FORMALIN in it correct... pretty much just a tank with water from the display tank, filter with filteration and carbon, with a few hiding places correct (getting rid of old beta tank and will be gettting something a little larger) does it sound like im missing anything here to correctly solve this issue... I read the link FIREROCK sent me... but he really dosent say what the best treatment would be reguarding the use of FW / SW in the dip itself 
my tank at home is suffering since i am not there to attend it and it is ONCE AGAIN at the mercy of my room mates...i need to fix this clown b4 i get to my house in torrance and have a world of probs there as well
my tank at home is suffering since i am not there to attend it and it is ONCE AGAIN at the mercy of my room mates...i need to fix this clown b4 i get to my house in torrance and have a world of probs there as well
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