Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank)

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BTW, I want to post a message regarding the use of Copper. It is a known catalyst of angioneogenesis in humans, which means it promotes the generation of new blood vessels. Since most Cancers spread by a process of angioneogenesis it's best to avoid exposure to Copper. If for example you are using an airstone in a copper treated tank it would be wise not to breath the mist by wearing a mask, avoid skin contact by wearing latex gloves and generally minimize exposure.

OT. Perhaps there is a coralation between the rise of cancer in the western world and the use of copper pipes in home water supply systems. Class action suit! :P I'm sure the previous lead pipes weren't the greatest idea either.
 
Actually, if cancer is your concern then "modern" PVC pipes are the most dangerous. If your house burns down, the dioxin released by the PVC are among the most toxic chemicals known to man. Copper is fine once it oxidizes on the surface.
 
I usually use Mardel Copper Safe, but I do use SeaChem Cupramine due to availability. I use the Salifert Cu kit, but don't find it to be accurate. If you don't have calcareous substrate then you can rely mostly on careful dosing, water change and top-up. I usually let it drop below therapeutic levels rather than risk overdose.

Thank you Mr. Wilson:)

BTW, I want to post a message regarding the use of Copper. It is a known catalyst of angioneogenesis in humans, which means it promotes the generation of new blood vessels. Since most Cancers spread by a process of angioneogenesis it's best to avoid exposure to Copper. If for example you are using an airstone in a copper treated tank it would be wise not to breath the mist by wearing a mask, avoid skin contact by wearing latex gloves and generally minimize exposure.

Elliott would the concentration of say 0.5ppm in a QT be enough to be concerned or mainly the concentrate itself? I ask because I scrub the walls of my QT by hand when doing 50% water changes, in addition to having to pick up the feeding clip off the bottom of the tank every now and then. Should I be wearing gloves?

If I may, Aquainas I have used both Seachem's and API's kit to test copper and have found them both to be accurate. I was using both kits at the same time to verify my findings.

Good to know, I appreciate your comment on this. On a quick note, when using the API kit is it safe to say the proper reading is had from standing the vial on the card looking down or holding a few centimeters off the card looking down?
 
OT. Perhaps there is a coralation between the rise of cancer in the western world and the use of copper pipes in home water supply systems. Class action suit! :P I'm sure the previous lead pipes weren't the greatest idea either.

the copper pipes commonly used do release copper in the drinking water, this is "governed" and limited and supposedly minuscule amounts get released, nevertheless it's a concern

working directly with copper such as we do when treating fish is definitely a possible direct source of poisonlng
 
Actually, if cancer is your concern then "modern" PVC pipes are the most dangerous. If your house burns down, the dioxin released by the PVC are among the most toxic chemicals known to man. Copper is fine once it oxidizes on the surface.

yes, the fumes from pvc are very toxic, I remember someone on here was bending pvc by heating it up and another person was making Eductors himself out of pvc, I posted a similar message to avoid those fumes
 
Thank you Mr. Wilson:)



Elliott would the concentration of say 0.5ppm in a QT be enough to be concerned or mainly the concentrate itself? I ask because I scrub the walls of my QT by hand when doing 50% water changes, in addition to having to pick up the feeding clip off the bottom of the tank every now and then. Should I be wearing gloves?

yes, where gloves and don't breath any fumes, avoid any and all exposure if possible

to be honest, I don't use copper for this reason, it's not worth the health risk to me
 
Thank you Mr. Wilson:)



Elliott would the concentration of say 0.5ppm in a QT be enough to be concerned or mainly the concentrate itself? I ask because I scrub the walls of my QT by hand when doing 50% water changes, in addition to having to pick up the feeding clip off the bottom of the tank every now and then. Should I be wearing gloves?



Good to know, I appreciate your comment on this. On a quick note, when using the API kit is it safe to say the proper reading is had from standing the vial on the card looking down or holding a few centimeters off the card looking down?


You place the vial directly on the card to get the proper reading.

The nice thing about the seachem test is it comes with a reference sampleso you can compare your readings for accuracy.
 
You place the vial directly on the card to get the proper reading.

The nice thing about the seachem test is it comes with a reference sampleso you can compare your readings for accuracy.

Exactly what I thought, thanks Scott!

Mr.Wilson have you had to ramp up the DC pumps now that there's more livestock in the tank? I can't get over how "filled in" it looks already:)
 
Exactly what I thought, thanks Scott!

Mr.Wilson have you had to ramp up the DC pumps now that there's more livestock in the tank? I can't get over how "filled in" it looks already:)

We started off at 100% then lowered it to 65-95% when the eductors were added. After more corals were added we went down to 50-75% to allow us to use the high flow areas. Now that it has filled in and everything is safely attached, I will be turning them back up to 45-65% then 45-90%, as there are four phases in sequence. The pumps have a photosensor and four more night phases which are around 25-45% then 25-65%. The wave timer is in seconds so we have a lot of flexibility. A common cycle is 45% for 2 minutes, 65% for 10 seconds, 55% for 1 minute, and 90% for 5 seconds - repeat. Each of the five pumps works on an independent timer cycle.
 
Thank You

Thank You

I'm not sure who is doing it but I would like to thank the folks who have rated this thread so high. It really is a huge compliment to all the members of this community and a testament to the continuing quality of dialog in this build.

Peter
 
I'm not sure who is doing it but I would like to thank the folks who have rated this thread so high. It really is a huge compliment to all the members of this community and a testament to the continuing quality of dialog in this build.

Peter

honestly Peter you are the one the thank, you have gone above and beyond what anyone would even dream of, and much more than your build, its your dedication to this thread, incredible
 
honestly Peter you are the one the thank, you have gone above and beyond what anyone would even dream of, and much more than your build, its your dedication to this thread, incredible

Thanks Elliott but I sincerely believe its this total community. Its not a case of false modesty on my part but simply a recognition of the positive impact this technology can have when the culture supports it the way this thread has evolved. The best part I believe is yet to come which hopefully will distinguish those who have stuck this out from the beginning.......much like yourself. So thank you again...............for me, i'm off to bed.

Peter
 
What an astonishing build mate. Well done Peter, Mr Wilson and team. Looks like a proper reef and a great fish choice as well many underrated inhabitants in there. :eek1:
 
Your thread is much more interesting that our current federal election:o

Canadians have a hard time living in the shadow of American politics. On the surface, our election is extremely uneventful, but I'm sure it's fascinating stuff for political scientists with our own flavour of corruption, votes of non-confidence and moderate right wing minority government. I haven't been watching tv lately so I often forget the election is even on. There's a certain comfort in stability and moderation, but it's a hell of a lot more fun watching the US elections from a safe distance:beer:

Peter & I had a private tutor show us how to take better pictures on friday. We are hoping to apply these new skills to improve your viewing pleasure.

We were fortunate enough to have Charles Delbeek come by for a visit while he was in town. He suggested a better quality flow meter with a magnetic measuring device to replace our clamp-on flow meter. He also made some comments with regard to the poor job the acrylic tank manufacturer did on the seams. He liked the mangrove walls and suggested they would be nice to have in Peter's desk area beside the tank. Apparently Julian Sprung has done a few ornamental mangrove systems for clients. Apparently, the scorpion fish at the Steinhart Aquarium have been doing well for six months, then die mysteriously. We are at about six months with ours, so I will be keeping a close eye on him.

We spotted some eggs on the side of our pipefish and the Atlantic blue chromis have been spawning. The male Bangai cardinal has two females constantly feeding him eggs and a few other fish (mandarin gobies, Bartlets anthias) seem to be going through breeding rituals.

We haven't caught our pest crab yet, and I'll admit I haven't been focusing much on the task. I moved 15 (yes fifteen) elegant corals into the mars system from the display due to what looks like large bite marks. The only other coral affected was two plate corals with a "pie slice" taken out of each of them. They all seem to be doing better in the Mars system. We need a few more days to confirm that the cure is sanctuary from the crab.
 
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