Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank)
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HaloStalker
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Awesome Slideshow, i counted 17 as well, i might see one more in the sand but not sure =P
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Opcn
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I hope you read all of the links because there is a test
I read the first few pages fully, then started to skim. I skimmed past and any post where someone wrote more than ~300 words I stopped and read it; It really helps you get past all those insufferable bores who just write some tripe like "Well that's 36 hours of my waking life well spent." :rolleye1:
msr224
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So...what you're saying is you read mr.wilson's posts? hahahahaha:lmao:
Western_reefer
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Allmost
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Regarding automated feeder for frozen food, Ive been trying to find a way to do this as well for a long time for my seahorses, and this came to mind.
how about an inverted coke bottle, with 2 air lines going in the cap.[sealed]
fill the bottle up with frozen food and RO/DI water.
one air line goes to the tank, other to a check valve, so at this stage, no water/food is coming out of the "drain" side. as its a seal, and no air can be drawn from the second air line.
now we can connect an air pump to the check value, and a timer !everytime pump comes on, it will push a couple of bubbles into the bottle, pushing some of the sinked food up floating in water, and also releasing the same amount to the tank via the drain ? [as its a seal and the air injected will need room, hence pushing out water/food.]
will this work ?
size of the air lines can be changed for different foods, but Mysis should fit through a regular Air line no Issues.
this unit can be placed inside a mini fridge ... so that the food doesnt go bad as well.
what do you guys think of this Idea ?
I am going to try it soon without the fridge to see if it works.
how about an inverted coke bottle, with 2 air lines going in the cap.[sealed]
fill the bottle up with frozen food and RO/DI water.
one air line goes to the tank, other to a check valve, so at this stage, no water/food is coming out of the "drain" side. as its a seal, and no air can be drawn from the second air line.
now we can connect an air pump to the check value, and a timer !everytime pump comes on, it will push a couple of bubbles into the bottle, pushing some of the sinked food up floating in water, and also releasing the same amount to the tank via the drain ? [as its a seal and the air injected will need room, hence pushing out water/food.]
will this work ?
size of the air lines can be changed for different foods, but Mysis should fit through a regular Air line no Issues.
this unit can be placed inside a mini fridge ... so that the food doesnt go bad as well.
what do you guys think of this Idea ?
I am going to try it soon without the fridge to see if it works.
dave.m
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I would be concerned with the food going rancid if you don't keep it refrigerated.Allmost said:
How long a time period did you intend for the feeder to operate "automatically" - a day ? - a week? In any tank, a more natural feeding method would be for a constant trickle of food all day long. Several recent articles have talked about the stress we create on our fish if we restrict feeding to only a few times per day. That is not natural, especially for reef fish.
In order for an autofeeder to make sense it should go for at least a week, I think. People who want an autofeeder are usually prompted into thinking of such a device when they are contemplating making a journey somewhere.
But really, I think a more ideal situation would be to combine the needs of the fish for a constant but small supply of food throughout the day with our own needs to be able to get away for a week or two knowing that there was a fair chance the tank and its inhabitants would be faring well. That means a refrigerated device of some kind that could thaw out the frozen food at a known rate and supply the food sporadically, maybe every two to five minutes, to the tank during the day. If you are feeding your inverts as well as the fish then extend the autofeeding times and types as appropriate for your tank's needs.
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well you can refill the bottle
maybe wrong of me to post it here, I am sorry for that Dave ! was just thinking loud, and thought Id share with this community.
I was personally looking for a way to feed Frozen food multiple times a day, as I said mostly for my seahorses, as I work about 10 hours a day. this should work for the 10 hours I am not home
I told a friend about this just now, and he advised me to use Wine chillers !! gonna look into those !! should keep the food good for a bit longer, I hope. [never seen one in real life though lol ]basically, the bigger the bottle, the bigger the fridge, and the smaller the tank, the longer this will work automatic without need of refill. [still need an automated thawing system
] so u can take a 5 G bucket inside a large fridge to go for weeks if you wish ? the number of times this system would feed the tank will depend on the number of times the air pump goes on, so unlimited and users choice ...
now automated thawing system would be even more complicated ! I will think about it
also the flaw with what I Said up there is the food left in the air line ! [if fridge was to be used, then air line would stick out of it], I will think of a solution to this.
dave.m
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Nothing wrong with that. I'm just expressing an opinion, not the law or anything. There is no RC police that I know of.Allmost said:
Peter asked for input from people with practical experience using commercial non-DIY devices. Ironically he got lots of input from people who have no experience (including me). I thought that was kind of funny in itself, but the obvious dearth of factual material shows that such a device is yet to be developed. All any of us can do on the subject is opine and make suggestions.
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If you google "continuous feeder" you will find several good designs.
My husband ( Ketchup) counted 18, I counted 17... we are debating on one shadow of a fish somewhere on the left.... so 9ball .. how many are there?
Btw 9ball, i'm a lurker of your thread and it's a wonderful distraction from work to come and read through all the information as well view the beautiful pictures! Usually I don't post but I couldn't help but count the fishys!!
Btw 9ball, i'm a lurker of your thread and it's a wonderful distraction from work to come and read through all the information as well view the beautiful pictures! Usually I don't post but I couldn't help but count the fishys!!
Opcn
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I think it would be easier to autofeed "frozen" foods in a larger tank, and I'll tell you why. The fish in our tanks can take some salt, they have their kidneys tuned to reef environments and their gills and it takes energy, but if they get a little too much salt they can manage it. You may be thinking this irrelevant but I'm about to get to it. Salt does two things important in this context, one is that it prevents spoilage organisms from growing and metabolizing (and filling the food with toxic metabolites) and two it allows us to store food at a lower temperature with out it freezing, because it prevents the formation of ice crystals. Now if you thaw the food most of the way, add salt, then return it to a very cold environment and "refreeze" this also prevents spoilage (and if you are lucky the insides of the food organisms will freeze before salt infiltrates and that will keep extra salt from going the only place it can add to fishes work and the place where you don't really need it). Now you have a slush.
Keep that slush in a -1C box and use some sort of system to dose it into the tank through a hole in the bottom of the box for instance and you are set.
The slush hits the water, the salt dilutes away and the fish eat the food. Now the salt will add up, but the bigger the tank the longer you can go before you have to worry about this, start doing WC's with water that is at 1.0245 instead of 1.025 and you can hold your salinity where you want it.
Keep that slush in a -1C box and use some sort of system to dose it into the tank through a hole in the bottom of the box for instance and you are set.
The slush hits the water, the salt dilutes away and the fish eat the food. Now the salt will add up, but the bigger the tank the longer you can go before you have to worry about this, start doing WC's with water that is at 1.0245 instead of 1.025 and you can hold your salinity where you want it.
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