Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank)
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Rybren
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Frank,
On behalf of Peter, welcome to the thread.
Your talk to our club (OVAS) earlier this year was extremely informative (when can you come back?
). Given your background, I am sure that by participating in this thread your contribution to our collective knowledge base will expand exponentially.
Jerry
On behalf of Peter, welcome to the thread.
Your talk to our club (OVAS) earlier this year was extremely informative (when can you come back?
). Given your background, I am sure that by participating in this thread your contribution to our collective knowledge base will expand exponentially.Jerry
PauChi
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See what I mean ... all these humble (experienced reefers) Canadians are slowly "coming out of the sump" (no pun intended) ... :lol2:
Paul
Frank Aguirre
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Lol
Lol
Excellent I love the humor eh????
Regarding the lighting for my refugiums I love T5's actually I have had sour debates since their inception but slowly they are getting in to mainstream here in North America.
Lol
Excellent I love the humor eh????
Regarding the lighting for my refugiums I love T5's actually I have had sour debates since their inception but slowly they are getting in to mainstream here in North America.
nineball
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Thank you Frank, its an honour to have you visit our community. My wife wants you to help her with her garden............WOW that's one healthy refugium. Can I ask what the substrate is???
Peter
Frank Aguirre
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Thank you
Thank you
It's always great when someone takes such a challenge in their hands and suddenly there are some 1000 gal plus systems all over.
Check this out while I'm pouring sand in a new 1300 gal in Mississauga Ont[/I]
Thank you
Frank,
On behalf of Peter, welcome to the thread.
Your talk to our club (OVAS) earlier this year was extremely informative (when can you come back?
Jerry
It's always great when someone takes such a challenge in their hands and suddenly there are some 1000 gal plus systems all over.
Check this out while I'm pouring sand in a new 1300 gal in Mississauga Ont[/I]
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Frank Aguirre
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Peter the honor is mine
Peter the honor is mine
Hello Peter and thank you for your comments and thank the wife too .
All I use is the same aragonite that you are using for your tank just that I place at least 6 inches deep
In my opinion mangroves grow quite fast and if some aquarist claim that they are poor nutrient removers is just because they put just a few instead of a little forest like the one in the pics.
Peter the honor is mine
Hello Peter and thank you for your comments and thank the wife too .
All I use is the same aragonite that you are using for your tank just that I place at least 6 inches deep
In my opinion mangroves grow quite fast and if some aquarist claim that they are poor nutrient removers is just because they put just a few instead of a little forest like the one in the pics.
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PauChi
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Now that's what I call ... Forrest Sump :hmm5: !!! I love it ... in fact should Peter ever lean to the mangrove "plantation" one could set up a Solar tube or two expansion ... no?
Hey Frank .... nice mangrove forest :wave: !!
Paul
nineball
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It took me a moment to realize your build is under way. I remember the start and I will look forward to your progress as well.
Peter
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Hello Frank
Aquarists claim mangroves are "slower" uptakers of nitrates and phosphates because they have trouble getting them to grow rapidly. You have found an excellent way of getting maximum growth out of them.
I read that you are using t5's for lighting. What are you using for substrate in the mangrove refugium. I know some like to have a layer of miracle mud sandwiched between two layers of sugar fine argonite
Thanks for posting pics of that refugium---now I know why I can never find a mangrove to purchase in this area:fun2:
nineball
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OK Paul, "forest Sump" gets you 5 out of 5 for creativity! But the expansion would not go down well with my wife.
Peter
nineball
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Thank you very much capn, I have wanted to be able to do that for a long, long time.
Peter
mr.wilson
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Diamond sleeper gobies (Valenciennea paullaris) are very nice and should always be kept in pairs. The male is usually smaller with a taller dorsal fin. If you want to add more of them, then go with some diversity and add my favourite of the Valenciennea genus, V. Wardi, Tiger Sleeper Goby. http://www.tjorvar.is/assets/images/Tiger_goby.jpg
Tiger Sleeper gobies stay close to the substrate with their mouths of sand so they don't make a mess like V. strigosus, Goldhead Sleeper Goby. They are also more hardy than the other members of the genus. I used to keep them with their commensal (symbiotic buddy) pistol (Alpheus sp.) shrimp, until I found out that they eat cleaner shrimp and the occasional fish. The clicking noise also drives me crazy as they sound identical to the more fearsome mantis shrimp. It's a cool display with the two gobies keeping watch and the blind shrimp maintaining the cave they all share. The shrimp uses a tentacle to constantly read the signals the "look-out" gobies give. Speaking of which, signal gobies (Signigobius biocellatus) are another favourite of mine that have a three-way relationship with a shrimp. http://www.starfish.ch/photos/fishes-Fische/gobies-Grundeln/Signigobius-biocellatus2.jpg
and how can we forget our favourite odd couple roommate Randal... not Tony... this guy http://www.frontiernet.net/~maroasis/randalls_shrimp_goby.jpg
and the shy but resplendent Antenna gobies (Stonogobiops sp.) http://reeftools.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Stonogobiops-yasha.jpg
http://www.stockphotopro.com/photo-thumbs-2/AKR7T1.jpg
and my favourite invisible fish the cave goby http://www.liveaquaria.com/images/categories/product/p-90167-Cave-transparent-goby.jpg
The nicest goby, although not a sand sifter, I have had came in by fluke as a "waif" from The Philippines, the Helfrichi Fire Goby http://gobyfrontiers.org/gf/eg-013.htm
The experts all agree that deep sand beds should be left alone, so sleeper gobies and any other sand sifting fish and invertebrates should be limited to tanks with a maximum sand depth of 2". A remote sand bed can be easily added with a 55 gallon drum on a flow-through somewhere in your system that is free of detritus.
Tiger Sleeper gobies stay close to the substrate with their mouths of sand so they don't make a mess like V. strigosus, Goldhead Sleeper Goby. They are also more hardy than the other members of the genus. I used to keep them with their commensal (symbiotic buddy) pistol (Alpheus sp.) shrimp, until I found out that they eat cleaner shrimp and the occasional fish. The clicking noise also drives me crazy as they sound identical to the more fearsome mantis shrimp. It's a cool display with the two gobies keeping watch and the blind shrimp maintaining the cave they all share. The shrimp uses a tentacle to constantly read the signals the "look-out" gobies give. Speaking of which, signal gobies (Signigobius biocellatus) are another favourite of mine that have a three-way relationship with a shrimp. http://www.starfish.ch/photos/fishes-Fische/gobies-Grundeln/Signigobius-biocellatus2.jpg
and how can we forget our favourite odd couple roommate Randal... not Tony... this guy http://www.frontiernet.net/~maroasis/randalls_shrimp_goby.jpg
and the shy but resplendent Antenna gobies (Stonogobiops sp.) http://reeftools.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Stonogobiops-yasha.jpg
http://www.stockphotopro.com/photo-thumbs-2/AKR7T1.jpg
and my favourite invisible fish the cave goby http://www.liveaquaria.com/images/categories/product/p-90167-Cave-transparent-goby.jpg
The nicest goby, although not a sand sifter, I have had came in by fluke as a "waif" from The Philippines, the Helfrichi Fire Goby http://gobyfrontiers.org/gf/eg-013.htm
The experts all agree that deep sand beds should be left alone, so sleeper gobies and any other sand sifting fish and invertebrates should be limited to tanks with a maximum sand depth of 2". A remote sand bed can be easily added with a 55 gallon drum on a flow-through somewhere in your system that is free of detritus.
nineball
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mr.wilson
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Yes they are. large groups of fire gobies pick at each others dorsal spines in smaller tanks, but you are closer to natural conditions with your tank size.
The other groups of fish that are totally peaceful and colourful are anthias and flasher wrasse. Some flasher wrasse will fight a bit, but once again not an issue in a big tank.
http://www.themarinecenter.com/fish/wrassereefsafe/
http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/anthias/
Dwarf angels are nice, but should be solitary or in pairs. Unlike the above fish, they can pick at corals though. http://www.centropyge.net/
Swallowtail angels (Genicanthus sp.) are reef safe. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/oct2003/Bellus_Angel.htm
mr.wilson
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It's the relationship between the fish and how the fit together as a group that is interesting, more than just gaudy colours. You want fish to fill all zones of the tank with gobies and blennies on the bottom, schooling fish in the middle near the top to draw out the timid fish, and some bigger fish in open areas.
I have seen cases where a large reef tank with 40 fish can appear devoid of fish due to their shyness. Once a school of anthias or chromis is added they know it is safe from predators and they all crawl out of the woodwork. We call these schools of fish "dither fish".
Some Swallowtail angels (Genacanthus sp.) eat anthias feces. They hang out below large schools and wait for the anthias to "make it rain"
Tile Gobies and certain blennies mimic anthias so they can blend in with the crowd for safety when travelling. Normally I wouldn't recommend tile gobies beacuse they don't adapt well to reef tanks, but they are fine with big tanks and look to scale (they put small tanks out of scale with their rapid swimming patterns and larger size 6"). The flashing tile goby is amazing as seen in this not-so-great video. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v221/blackgpgt/?action=view¤t=New90134.flv
Purple tile gobies are even more colourful, but they stick to one vibrant colour. http://www.getahugetank.com/images/purple_tile.jpg
Garden eels are another one that may work in a big tank like yours, but they need deep sand. You may be able to design a segregated sand area with deeper sand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXNjRNbpB9s
I have seen cases where a large reef tank with 40 fish can appear devoid of fish due to their shyness. Once a school of anthias or chromis is added they know it is safe from predators and they all crawl out of the woodwork. We call these schools of fish "dither fish".
Some Swallowtail angels (Genacanthus sp.) eat anthias feces. They hang out below large schools and wait for the anthias to "make it rain"
Tile Gobies and certain blennies mimic anthias so they can blend in with the crowd for safety when travelling. Normally I wouldn't recommend tile gobies beacuse they don't adapt well to reef tanks, but they are fine with big tanks and look to scale (they put small tanks out of scale with their rapid swimming patterns and larger size 6"). The flashing tile goby is amazing as seen in this not-so-great video. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v221/blackgpgt/?action=view¤t=New90134.flv
Purple tile gobies are even more colourful, but they stick to one vibrant colour. http://www.getahugetank.com/images/purple_tile.jpg
Garden eels are another one that may work in a big tank like yours, but they need deep sand. You may be able to design a segregated sand area with deeper sand. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXNjRNbpB9s
Russter
Northern Reefer
I don't know how I missed this thread, but I just read it over a couple of days. Amazing! I just upgraded from a 55 to a 90 and now that seems so small. It is so nice to read a thread that has a nice community feel to it as opposed to so many others that are full of bickering and flaming. Keep up the good work!
Western_reefer
Reef keeper
Wow! Very nice! How many gallons is the fuge and how many mangroves do you have? Don't mangroves need magnesium?
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