Could I keep SPS with these lights?

yes, it will work. it's going to cost you quite a bit in bulb replacement every 8-10 months, have you calculated bulb prices for it?

have you looked at reefbreeders LED fixtures?
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm an led guy, but the t5 is a safe bet, especially if you are starting with SPS.
 
Oh, and I have looked at the reefbreeder LEDs now, but I cant hang anything from my wall so it has to be mounted to the tank some how
 
One kessil will not cover a 3 feet tank.
Most people that are new to sps don't have the experiences to recognize the subtle changes in sps. So they don't know if their corals are bleaching because of light, too little of phosphate or nitrate or food. They don't know if the corals are dying because of light or pests or other parameters. By going with a reliable and proven source of light, they can cut out alot of guesses and can figure out their problem much easier. So go with the T5 and you only need to change the bulbs once a year.
 
Will it cover it enough to have sps mostly in center? i want a mixed reef so I could keep the sps in center if needed.
 
It will cover enough in the middle for your sps. However, at the two ends, there will be very little light.
 
Darn.. I really like the simple look for the Kessils, guess I would have to do something along the lines of two a150w for a 40b then? I'm assuming that with two a150w I'd be able to keep sps anywhere?
 
Kessils are not made to grow corals they only are made as accent lighting. I've seen many in person and I would not use one to sustain my corals or grow them. Go with t5 fixture they are a good for a starter SPs tank.
 
Once you can grow SPs and sustain them, start messing around with led's if you like. they are tricky bastards and even some great tanks with advanced hobbiest have issues with them.
 
Every tanks is not created equal. Just because Kessils doesn't work in one persons tank doesn't mean they won't work in another's tank.

IMO when it comes to corals and lighting, knowing the basics is what makes you or breaks you in this hobby. Then it's up to the individual hobbyist to tweek their tanks to meet the needs if their aquarium.

One of the only facts in this hobby is the reputation of t5s and metal halides. There are some successful LED tanks out there.
 
There ARE but there few and far between. I seen more people mess up with LEDs than other lighting. I know you have as well, if not your kidding yourself. LEDs are not for beginners.
 
I feel sorry for the LED users. I really do.
They just keep trying to convince themselves and others that those LEDs are a great deal and better then MHs and/or HOT5s.

The LEDs are making weekly improvements but only because of the hype around the market today.
LEDs still have a log way to go before they get even close to what the MHs and T5s can provide for a reef tank. Sorry!

Please get the T5 fixture.
You'll be happy and take the light issue out of your troubles.
Enough having to deal with chemistry and maintenance, don't you think?

Grandis.
 
I will say one of the reasons I switched to t5 from led is the fact that t5 just works. I know led works because I've seen a lot of great tanks lit with them. To me removing led was one less variable in my tank that I had to worry about.

They aren't set and forget like t5. With t5 I threw in some ati bulbs and haven't thought about it since. With my leds out seemed like I was always second guessing my settings and messing with them.
 
I feel sorry for the LED users. I really do.
They just keep trying to convince themselves and others that those LEDs are a great deal and better then MHs and/or HOT5s.

The LEDs are making weekly improvements but only because of the hype around the market today.
LEDs still have a log way to go before they get even close to what the MHs and T5s can provide for a reef tank. Sorry!

Please get the T5 fixture.
You'll be happy and take the light issue out of your troubles.
Enough having to deal with chemistry and maintenance, don't you think?

Grandis.


Yes T-5's. You will not be sorry and that fixture looks very slimline and the front control looks like a perfect timer.
 
There ARE but there few and far between. I seen more people mess up with LEDs than other lighting. I know you have as well, if not your kidding yourself. LEDs are not for beginners.

This isn't to flame you, of course, but to take advantage here and comment on the statement above: "LEDs are not for beginners". I've seen more than once and it's becoming a label. Not so good!

I wouldn't say that.
The statement gives the impression that we need to learn something or have lots of experiences to be able to deal and to be successful with LEDs! That's not true. Those guys who have a little temporary success with LEDs are just lucky for a while and/or have lots of fixtures to try.
Another reason to be so successful is when they don't really want to compare LEDs and MH/T5s.

To be a beginner has absolutely nothing to do with "knowing about LEDs" or not.
Anyone can learn anything to start in this hobby, if he/she wants to.
But there is nothing solid to be learned about LEDs today, sorry!
If LEDs were good once you "learn" that would be fine.
We all could get it and make it work, if that was true.
I just don't think there is so many "stupid/inexperienced/beginners/unable to learn" people in hobby. Nope.

That statement ("LEDs are not for beginners") could be the reason for so many people trying to be the so "smart/expert", and trying to prove the LEDs to work in their tanks, like those other so called "experienced ones" in the hobby supposedly to do.

Every week we see the new LED stuff in the market, feeding the money machine and promising better and more efficient ways to deal with new colorful computer programs and choices for thunders, moon, sun, clouds, disco colors and so on"¦ they do serve to feed our pleasures.
Newer expensive fixtures, upgrades are constantly adding to the VIP club of LEDs.
I guess they need that to keep up with the trials, so money can come to the tests and so on? Are they using hobbyists for the tests and making money at the same time? I'm just watching once I wouldn't have time and money to participate in such tests with my zoas. I like the zoas very much you know, and they're doing great under the MH/T5s for so many years. Not worthy to try something that isn't just right yet.

The bottom line about the money comes down to: having to change bulbs, instead feeding the LED market, changing fixtures every year. That's what many do! They need to wake up, I think.

Nope, nothing to learn more than try, try, try"¦ Trying their best, but not coming close to the old MH/T5 deal.
LEDs aren't still better than MHs and/or T5s besides the savings on electric bills and less heat. Period. Is that worthy to have your expensive corals and so on under perpetual light trials?
Don't think so.
So much stress and time into it, you don't even enjoy the corals anymore!!!

This is to let you guys know that if you want to go back to your old MH/T5 fixtures that's ok"¦ Many have done that already!
This is also to help you to feel better if you have your MH/T5s running and never wondered into the LED world! :D

I'm just tired of seeing people loosing time and money on the perpetual trials with the new expensive LED systems. :wild one:
It's so sad when you see people spending money with the LEDs instead other important things.

Just my US$.02 on the subject.

Grandis.
 
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