Diary of my LiL 40 Gallon Breeder(Intense)

Spoke with both AGA and Oceanic today.

AGA- proper way to level the tank is from the bottom. It can be shimmed. Waterline tolerance is 1/8 inch. Any gap between the floor and stand is less significant than all the edge of the tank contacting the the top of the stand. Being off level is far more important of an issue.

Oceanic- tank can be shimmed. Any gap, while it should be minimized, is not as significant as the waterline being off- As long as there is contact with the four corners to the floor. The stands are built sturdy enough to avoid significant warping and twist, and the center braceing will still support if there is a gap between it (the center brace) and the floor. The more important factor is leveling. Water line tolerance is a touchy issue, but they admittedely have a 120 in the office off at the waterline by almost 1/2 inch.
 
The "offender" got returned to the LFS on Sunday. Thankfully, he decided to park himself right in front of the tank.
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"The Thorn Latirus"
 
Since I can't reply in a PM....

Since I can't reply in a PM....

Yes. :( Something on their end is screwed up, and I have to call them at 8am to get it back online. This will be my third contact with them, and hopefully it will be resolved quickly.

You should empty out your PM box, including your SENT folder.
 
Marc, I'll try again Wednesday night.

Well my tank has passed the 7 week mark! :beachbum: :celeb1:

Parameters:

Salinity- 1.026
Temp- 78.5-81.5 (With T5s on for more than 4 hours the temp can creep to 82 when the ambient room temp rises above 70. A slight draft from the slider kills that)
Flow- Almost 1000gph

Ammonia- 0
Nitrite- 0
Nitrate- .10
PH- 8.3-8.4
Alkalinity- dkh 6.4/2.6meg/l (I completely forgot to test after adding the buffer, but I will tonight)

Water Changes- 6 aprox. 8 gallon water changes. I'm now moving into a 2 week schedule.

Diatoms- bloomed and subsided. Algae went from brown to green. There's a slight copper colored buildup on the sand, and I'm seeing the beginnings of some red algae below the sand. The green has agressively covered any bleached coralline(it's kinda has a flourescent quality- it's kinda attractive next to the purple coralline). My snails are quite happy. The brown algae on the rocks started to look like it might form into hair, but one of my Astreas passed over this rock and it went bye bye.

Aiptasia- the initial nukings of boiled water only killed it temporarily.
I then injected it with a high calc/salinity mix, but this didn't kill it completely. I took Tyler's advice and used the high calc/salinity mix via a turkey baster. This worked amazingly well, because the "crevice" it was in was a very clever hiding place as it extended to two sides and completely through to another opening on top of the rock. The solution forced into the Aiptasia hole had the effect of going through the rock at four distinct points..leaving it nowhere to hide. No Aiptasia since. :)

Polyclad- I have not seen that large polyclad since. A couple of reefers in my club suggested it still might be a Stomatella snail, as their shells can remain fairly hidden. When I talked with Bob at the last meeting, he confirmed he had quite a few in his tank; so it's possible I just snagged one from his sand.

Possible Pyramid Snails- What I had initially ID as pods in the murky water, upon introducing some live sand from Bob's tank, turned out to be tiny snails. These are identical looking to pyramidellae, and they only venture out at night. However, from what I've read, and my browsings of Dr. Ron's forum, there are tons of look alikes that are harmless. The snails I have seem to be achieving sizes of 1/4 inch- too large for pyramids. Their population seems to have wained a bit. I'm going to monitor these within the next few weeks. If they do disappear, they may have been pyramids, and with nothing to eat, they will die out. There are no pyramids that prey on both clams and snails. I have carefully inspected my snails, and none are infested. Time will tell.

Coralline- The Brazillian Live Rock had some really intense purples on it. Under the T5s this coralline is thriving, and I'm getting continued new growth. There are deep purples, pinks, and deep red/ burgandys. There is also a flourescing orange that comes and goes. :)

Filter Feeders- I had a huge population of tube worms forming about mid way through my cycle. This population has been cut back a bit. On one rock, that area is completely covered in coralline. I attest the loss of some of my others to my snails just having mowed them over. What I have noticed is that the more calcerous tubed onces are thriving, and I have one as large as a dime with multiple colors.

Sponges- I have some beautiful white sponge. I had a very tiny outcropping of yellow that I can no longer find. There was a large section of orange sponge underneath one of the rocks. Some of this has now migrated to a couple of the front pieces. I also have this strange fuzzy brown stuff on one rock with small, clear bubbles embedded in it. They almost look like eggs. It doesn't seem to be spreading, and I'm still trying to decide if it's sponge, bacteria, or something entirely different.

Worms- I have an awesome spagetti worm from Bob's tank. I can see more and more bristle worm tracks forming, and I've been able to see babies hangin out of rocks(And of course I saw them spawn- way cool). I took a flashlight and looked at the bottom pane of glass one night, there are a few tracks even that deep- I'm thinking that's a good sign. I have some hair worms, and I also have a long clear worm I got from Bob's tank. I forget what you call it, but it sends out part of it's body into the water column to feed- pretty neat too.

Pods- Pods- :bounce1: A couple of weeks ago I was lucky to see a very tiny one scurry through the rockwork. Now almost every time I turn the lights on I see a few in the rocks. I even saw a couple of pretty large porkers. A couple of nights ago, I saw one tooling around the sand. Another night my girlfriend says, "There's one of those things you like." It too was crawlin out along the sand. :D

Stars- I have a few Asterinas and some micro brittles. I have one very, very cool black and white Asterina.

Other neat stuff- I'll find white hydroids on the glass every so often.
I have a couple of baby clams embedded in the rockwork, and if I wasn't mistaken with my ID, I had a baby non-sessile clam moving about the tank. I also have a seriously cool 20 year old chiton that I see just about every other couple nights.

T5s- I've lived with these for almost a month, and I'm definately open to suggestions. I'd like to change out at least one of the bulbs. I currently have from back to front:
blue+
blue+
sun
aquablue
sun
blue+

Option 1- change out the front sun to a blue+
Option 2- change out the front sun to an aquablue, with the possibility of changing the other sun to an aquablue in the future
Any thoughts?

Current Inhabitants:

Fish:
Brazilian Flameback Angel

Snails:
2 Astrea
3 Trochus
2 Tiger Trochus
7 Nassarius Vibex

One Hawaiian Feather Duster

Corals:
2 Purple Spotted Actinodiscus
2 Purple Actinodiscus
4 Rhodactis Inchoata from Tonga
1 Rhodactis sp green/pink
1 Red Spotted Actinodiscus
Purple Tip Montipora Digitada :spin3:
 
The fuzzy brown stuff with bubbles might be algae. Is it in a fairly high-flow spot? I've got some that loves flow-but my new clean-up crew and tang are taking care of it. :) It started growing very slow, then it quickly overtook the tank.
 
Mike, my whole tank is high flow..:p It's actually on a front rock. My powerheads are in the back- still a pretty moderate flow area.

It looks like it's grown a bit. I'll just have to keep my eye on it. I'd try scraping it off, but if it is bubble algae, I think I'd just run the risk of spreading it. Any suggestions?
 
onthefly, I don't have an Mg test yet, but I'll keep that in mind. I think I've fixed the issue.

Mike(shoestring), I don't think it's bubble algae. I did some looking online at pics, and I couldn't find anything quite like this. I'll try to get some good pics.

So now for some fun stuff..
Well I've gone and done it. I took my girlfriend with me to Exotic on Sunday, and now she is insistent on buying me a clam for my birthday.

Now, I've done a great deal of reading about clams, but I'm trying to decide if my tank is ready for one. Personally, I think a clam will do wonderfully in my tank for various reasons.

The main question is how do you folks feel about a clam in a tank that is slightly older than 2 months?

There seem to be two prevalent schools of thought:

1. It seems many people feel that if you've done your homework, all of your water parameters are stable, and you can provide the proper lighting- then go for it.

2. A clam should only be added to a reef that has been established for 6 months.

Help me out folks- I'm really lookin to give into my girlfriend on this one...:love1:
 
Your tank is too young for a clam, imho. So many parameters change over the first 6 months, and once it settles in you'll have better success with your livestock.
 
Marc, I'm still tempted though. I've gotten just as many positives as I have negatives.

I think I'm going to be bold and try it with the foresight to know if it doesn't do well, someone in my reef club, with an established tank, will gladly make my clam a happy home(there are a few fairly experienced clam keepers in CTARS).

I'll make sure I have some alternatives prior to my purchasing it.

When I returned that snail, I saw a very unique Rhodactis I just had to have:
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These pics really don't do it justice. It has a bright pink mouth, and even tough the specimen is small, it can be seen across the room. The body is an alternating green with purpleish hues.
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A few hours after acclimation, my little Rhody went from the size of a dime to almost the size of a quarter. :)
 
I finally got a decent pic of that lil purple tipped Montipora Digitata that I got as a bonus from Dan's sand. :) It's actually doing quite well and showing some new growth. This lil frag looks brown in the pic because it's under a sun bulb, but when moved it turns a lavender(it seems to like the sun bulb so I left it).
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Just keep in mind that a clam doesn't slowly go downhill when it is in trouble. Death can occur virtually overnight, so by the time you notice something is amiss, it may already be too late.

If you have club members with that much experience in your area, I'd strongly recommend you ask them what they suggest. If they feel one will work with your young setup and you trust their experience, then give it a shot. However, if they are less than enthused, I suggest you sit on your hands for a while and wait it out. :)
 
Marc...sent you a pm. I'm feelin confident. :bigeyes:

Here's a pic of that bubbley, furry, brown, matt with clear balls- look dead center in the pic and you can see two outcroppings- not quite sponge, not quite bubble algae:
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Can anyone ID this?
 
melev is right at least 6months your tank is still in the newbie stage somtimes it may tank longer to get out of that stage it took mine about a 11/2 to finally stabilize all my paramters are perfect and have not seen any increase or decrease in anything at all
 
It's hard to tell, but your algae looks like what I have--you might as well have taken my dirty ol' rock. :lol: I never found a positive ID, the closest thing was that it might be "bryopsis"-meaning a genaric form of fuzzy nusiance algae, rather than a specific species of bryopsis. Maybe you can find a better ID. I found a sailfin tang and a recharged clean-up crew took care of it, so I didn't bother looking into it any more. I wasn't thinking it was bubble algae; rather, algae sometimes produces oxygen bubbles (photosynthesis) so the clear bubbles suggested that's an algae and not a sponge.

About your tank age, stability, and maturation: remember that (1) new reefers may decide to switch how to suppliment calcium and alk, or change some other parameter, and cause some kind of instability in their first few months. (2) there are a few things we can test for, and countless things we can't. There are many factors that affect how the "more difficult" inverts do, but we don't even know about them.

Since you seem to be doing your research and homework, (1) may not be a big problem for you, but I'd still wait. As for (2), who knows? Get the clam, and it will either do well, or be a lesson learned. A positive outcome either way, depending on how you look at it. ;)
 
Mike, thanks for your continued help. I love your dirty rock...:D

You see, I learn something new every day. I thought Bryopsis only came in the blue green leafy "iceburg" variety. I never knew there was a "turf" form. HMMMMM

Yes, yes...the bright side!!! I'm ordering it tonight.


Oh and here's the upside, I called Marine Depot today, the company I purchased the Salifert tests from, and they were EXTREMELY helpful over the phone- as usual. I was actually not using the kit correctly.

I wasn't sure, from the wording in the test, whether you're supposed to wait for the solution to just start to change color...get to about halfway....or completely change.

..well the winner is...completely changed...:)

I was only waiting for it to get about 1/3 changed, but apparantely, there should be no blue/green color left at all.

So my Dkh is about 9.6...and before...it was actually 9.6.

Problem solved...:)
 
From Marc's site: (This is not the same as Green Hair Algae - derbasia - which is much finer in texture.)

I imagine mine may have more in common with derbasia-maybe ICF's, too.
 
Yeah, I have bryopsis. Had forever too, but it never was a large amount and doesn't spread so... BUT, I also have this other algae that is ticking me off. It anchors itself into the rock with little roots.

Mark, do you know what algae this may be?

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Algae IDs

Algae IDs

ICF-

Here's a couple of algae IDs from wet web media:

blue pill or red pill .

The id's that might look like yours are the last or next-to last on each page. One is called "harmless", the other "get rid of it, but a tang will help". They look pretty similar to me. :rolleyes:
 
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