Diary of my LiL 40 Gallon Breeder(Intense)
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floppyfish
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Well thats easy enough to do. here is an old pic... This was before this crap started getting a hold on stuff... You can see it the exact same spot 1 month ago, but the 1 rock with coralline has this algae on it now.
I dunno, but it is frustrating as hell cause nothing eats it...
I dunno, but it is frustrating as hell cause nothing eats it...
InsaneClownFish
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Mike, neither the blue nor the red pill helped me there. 
Thanks for trying though.
It's kinda unfair of me to ask people to squint at a picture...I'm just going to have to learn to take better ones. I do appreciate everyone's patience who's following this thread, because this underwater, macro photography thing is very new to me.
I am leaning towards some type of sponge. It's only expanded MAYBE 1/4 inch in 3 weeks. It's definately not bryopsis or cyano, and it's unlike any picture of bubble algae I've seen. It's not Valonia. Deep thoughts...
floppyfish, Marc was right- gorgeous!
mmmmm ENVY....
Thanks for trying though. It's kinda unfair of me to ask people to squint at a picture...I'm just going to have to learn to take better ones. I do appreciate everyone's patience who's following this thread, because this underwater, macro photography thing is very new to me.
I am leaning towards some type of sponge. It's only expanded MAYBE 1/4 inch in 3 weeks. It's definately not bryopsis or cyano, and it's unlike any picture of bubble algae I've seen. It's not Valonia. Deep thoughts...
floppyfish, Marc was right- gorgeous!
mmmmm ENVY....
floppyfish
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Thanks ICF.
Yeah you know, the algae wasn't that bad untill I started power feeding the candy cane you see in the last picture.
The one spot between the Soloman Island zoa's and the orange zoa's is the spot now filled by this algae. Its pretty obvious by the green striped shrooms in both pics.
But I dunno, the Astrea's, Strombus and some other variety of snails don't touch it. The emerald crab doesn't eat it and its looking like cooking the rock may be the only solution.
Man, its quite a bummer.
Yeah you know, the algae wasn't that bad untill I started power feeding the candy cane you see in the last picture.
The one spot between the Soloman Island zoa's and the orange zoa's is the spot now filled by this algae. Its pretty obvious by the green striped shrooms in both pics.
But I dunno, the Astrea's, Strombus and some other variety of snails don't touch it. The emerald crab doesn't eat it and its looking like cooking the rock may be the only solution.
Man, its quite a bummer.
melev
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Well, even if you hate it now, I like the colors. 
If you have a chance to take a new picture of that spot, I'd probably put it on my desktop for a while. Eva Longoria has been on there for a while....
I just checked my algae page, but it isn't on there either. You might try sending a PM to "ATJ" and see if he knows.
If you have a chance to take a new picture of that spot, I'd probably put it on my desktop for a while. Eva Longoria has been on there for a while....I just checked my algae page, but it isn't on there either. You might try sending a PM to "ATJ" and see if he knows.
floppyfish
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Here yah go. It does add a nice green to the tank but it is too hard to pull off the rock.
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floppyfish
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or the full focus shot...
floppyfish
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Hmm, yeah I just signed up at a new photo site to post larger images and it doesn't like when I link 2 images from there.
How about now?
How about now?
AquAsylum
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ICF- I just hopped over here via a link from another thread. Your tank looks great, but I just had to go back to the beginng and say that I LOVE the copper! Your whole dining room is great and this tank puts it over the top! Keep up the good work- we're on day 2 with our 120 and it's nice to have examples to show that our patience will pay off.
InsaneClownFish
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AquAsylum, thanks! Yes, I'm quite fond of the copper. You're the first to comment about my dining room! Thank you. I put alot of work and thought into making my little condo a home.
My upstairs is actually on the second floor of my townhouse, and there's a nice deck off the dining room- can't wait for the summer.
The tank gets some ewws and ahhs already from visitors. My girlfriend, who would yell at me for talking about something I didn't have yet SO much, will now park a chair in front of the tank and veg.
She tells me I'm slackin- she finds more stuff than I do half the time.
I constantly get dragged away- "Honey come with me...you HAVE to see this whatcahhamahousymagigythingystuffthatsmovinandglowing!"
I love it.
AquAsylum, I also appreciate you checkin out the thread from the beginning...tells me I'm not boring everyone to death with my sorta empty tank...
Aporter...thanks! Now get going on the new tank!!!!
My upstairs is actually on the second floor of my townhouse, and there's a nice deck off the dining room- can't wait for the summer.
The tank gets some ewws and ahhs already from visitors. My girlfriend, who would yell at me for talking about something I didn't have yet SO much, will now park a chair in front of the tank and veg.
She tells me I'm slackin- she finds more stuff than I do half the time.
I constantly get dragged away- "Honey come with me...you HAVE to see this whatcahhamahousymagigythingystuffthatsmovinandglowing!"
I love it.
AquAsylum, I also appreciate you checkin out the thread from the beginning...tells me I'm not boring everyone to death with my sorta empty tank...
Aporter...thanks! Now get going on the new tank!!!!
InsaneClownFish
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Now onto my nut job of a little dwarf angel..
Here's the deal..
I've had this beautiful Brazilian Flameback Angel for a little over 5 weeks.
He/she was previously in the local reef store for at least 3 weeks before I purchased- eating well.
Now she's been loving the tank- queen of all she surveys, but I gotta tell you, my girlfriend keeps callin her retarded. This fish can be downright bizarre.
When I first got her, she was very active. But then she seemed a bit tentative- hiding a little. I've since learned that this behavior definately has a pattern to it- like a nut in the afternoon...and floatin from spot to spot at night.
At first it might be hard to get a picture of her when I approached the tank- now she'll come right up to the glass in the afternoon. She'll chase a flashlight around, and we even had a stare down right at the glass the other day.
I have 4 Maxijet 900s in my lil 40 Breeder, so she's definately become more and more accustomed to the flow. She pics at the rocks and forages along the glass all day pickin off diatoms.
Her belly looks plump...coloration is gorgeous, but damn does she always appear to be starvin. I feed once- usually every night. Sometimes, I choose not to feed because I'm at work all night, because there's plenty of "natural" food in the tank, or because I just want to keep the water quality up there. (This is usually only one or two days out of the week at most).
Mysis- eats greedily(but will often ignore mysis after a minute or two)
Formula One Flake- eats ravenously as well, and will down two or three large chunks(but then will see a chunk in the water..swim up to it..then swim away)
Zooplankton- picks at
Cyclopeeze- picks at- kinda small
Nori- kinda eats- but loses interest in
Frozen Angel Formula- doesn't have much interest in
Now is it strange for a dwarf angel to eat SO vigorously for 90 seconds or so and then kinda swim up to some of the food and give a look like...I'm bored with you?
Why does my little angel scour the algae continuously, but at feeding time goes nuts then kinda loses interest?
Are there any other foods people would suggest I try?
Why the lackluster interest in Nori when she goes nuts on algae all day?
I don't think I'm overfeeding. I'm cutting the frozen mysis cubes into 8ths, and I'm only tossing in a few formula flakes.
In the beginning- I noticed that when I would add flake, it took her awhile to get it. The flake would have to float around a bit. Now- as soon as I add it she's bangin her head into the glass top....I tell you she's a complete spaz...
I have one maxi configured to put out some bubbles through a little venturi style attachment...sometimes she'll hang out and eat the bubbles..
Another thing I noticed is she will downright cruise warp speed at times- not continuously, but if she decides she wants to be somewhere it's like she wills herself across the tank.
I also noticed that her attempts at getting algae off the powerheads has become bolder. A couple of times I would see her try and grab some algae off the maxi-jet powerhead outlet and get shot across the tank...lesson quickly learned she'd be more cautious and forage around it.
Lately, she doesn't care and dive bombs it. Sometimes getting shot out..sometimes doing a pirrouette upwards and back at it...:lol:
Now I'm guessing and hoping that alot of this is normal dwarf angel behavior.
There was one PARTICULAR thing I noticed that concerned me a bit.
I saw her by one of the powerheads the other day and she shook....almost like she was cold...she was swimming there...kinda against the suction....(it seemed at first..but she really wasn't, and she was never physically on it). I noticed her start to forage off the intake again, and all of a sudden she ate something that didn't agree with her...she shook HARD..like a seizure- almost like she was trying to dislodge something..or she was having a bad reaction to something. She swam down to the corner and shook again...HARD. She then seemed and acted completely fine...no incidences since.
I apologize for the long post, but I just have to know if this is all normal behavior.
:spin2: Although I tend to think my lil fishy is kinda hmmm "special."
Here's the deal..
I've had this beautiful Brazilian Flameback Angel for a little over 5 weeks.
He/she was previously in the local reef store for at least 3 weeks before I purchased- eating well.
Now she's been loving the tank- queen of all she surveys, but I gotta tell you, my girlfriend keeps callin her retarded. This fish can be downright bizarre.
When I first got her, she was very active. But then she seemed a bit tentative- hiding a little. I've since learned that this behavior definately has a pattern to it- like a nut in the afternoon...and floatin from spot to spot at night.
At first it might be hard to get a picture of her when I approached the tank- now she'll come right up to the glass in the afternoon. She'll chase a flashlight around, and we even had a stare down right at the glass the other day.
I have 4 Maxijet 900s in my lil 40 Breeder, so she's definately become more and more accustomed to the flow. She pics at the rocks and forages along the glass all day pickin off diatoms.
Her belly looks plump...coloration is gorgeous, but damn does she always appear to be starvin. I feed once- usually every night. Sometimes, I choose not to feed because I'm at work all night, because there's plenty of "natural" food in the tank, or because I just want to keep the water quality up there. (This is usually only one or two days out of the week at most).
Mysis- eats greedily(but will often ignore mysis after a minute or two)
Formula One Flake- eats ravenously as well, and will down two or three large chunks(but then will see a chunk in the water..swim up to it..then swim away)
Zooplankton- picks at
Cyclopeeze- picks at- kinda small
Nori- kinda eats- but loses interest in
Frozen Angel Formula- doesn't have much interest in
Now is it strange for a dwarf angel to eat SO vigorously for 90 seconds or so and then kinda swim up to some of the food and give a look like...I'm bored with you?
Why does my little angel scour the algae continuously, but at feeding time goes nuts then kinda loses interest?
Are there any other foods people would suggest I try?
Why the lackluster interest in Nori when she goes nuts on algae all day?
I don't think I'm overfeeding. I'm cutting the frozen mysis cubes into 8ths, and I'm only tossing in a few formula flakes.
In the beginning- I noticed that when I would add flake, it took her awhile to get it. The flake would have to float around a bit. Now- as soon as I add it she's bangin her head into the glass top....I tell you she's a complete spaz...
I have one maxi configured to put out some bubbles through a little venturi style attachment...sometimes she'll hang out and eat the bubbles..
Another thing I noticed is she will downright cruise warp speed at times- not continuously, but if she decides she wants to be somewhere it's like she wills herself across the tank.
I also noticed that her attempts at getting algae off the powerheads has become bolder. A couple of times I would see her try and grab some algae off the maxi-jet powerhead outlet and get shot across the tank...lesson quickly learned she'd be more cautious and forage around it.
Lately, she doesn't care and dive bombs it. Sometimes getting shot out..sometimes doing a pirrouette upwards and back at it...:lol:
Now I'm guessing and hoping that alot of this is normal dwarf angel behavior.
There was one PARTICULAR thing I noticed that concerned me a bit.
I saw her by one of the powerheads the other day and she shook....almost like she was cold...she was swimming there...kinda against the suction....(it seemed at first..but she really wasn't, and she was never physically on it). I noticed her start to forage off the intake again, and all of a sudden she ate something that didn't agree with her...she shook HARD..like a seizure- almost like she was trying to dislodge something..or she was having a bad reaction to something. She swam down to the corner and shook again...HARD. She then seemed and acted completely fine...no incidences since.
I apologize for the long post, but I just have to know if this is all normal behavior.
:spin2: Although I tend to think my lil fishy is kinda hmmm "special."
melev
Well-known member
I would think that your angel is ingesting air bubbles which are not a good thing. For now, I'd turn off any venturi valves, to only create flow without air bubbles.
Try feeding ONLY sinking pellet food for now. That way she'll have to eat off the substrate if she doesn't catch it on the way down. I use both Formula One and Formula Two each day for my Mandarin Diner.
http://melevsreef.com/pics/food/dried_foods.jpg
Try feeding ONLY sinking pellet food for now. That way she'll have to eat off the substrate if she doesn't catch it on the way down. I use both Formula One and Formula Two each day for my Mandarin Diner.
http://melevsreef.com/pics/food/dried_foods.jpg
InsaneClownFish
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Marc, I've adjusted the venturi periodically to decrease the micro bubbles. I don't want to nix it completely, so I'll just have to keep my eye on it.
I posted this question in the "Reef Fishes" forum as well, and people seem to think this is pretty typically nutty angel behavior.
I'm definately going to take your suggestion and try the pellets. In fact, I had it in the back of my mind to give some pellets a go. Do you ever feed golden pearls? What about blood worms?
I'm also going to give that frozen angel formula another shot, because I think she might warm to it. She's definately starting to associate my presence with chow time...
Well everyone, this past Saturday I broke the 2 month mark...here's a few new pics of my lil nut job to celebrate....:bounce1:
And here's one of my fav snails-
I posted this question in the "Reef Fishes" forum as well, and people seem to think this is pretty typically nutty angel behavior.
I'm definately going to take your suggestion and try the pellets. In fact, I had it in the back of my mind to give some pellets a go. Do you ever feed golden pearls? What about blood worms?
I'm also going to give that frozen angel formula another shot, because I think she might warm to it. She's definately starting to associate my presence with chow time...
Well everyone, this past Saturday I broke the 2 month mark...here's a few new pics of my lil nut job to celebrate....:bounce1:
And here's one of my fav snails-
floppyfish
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Yeah, I never had any luck with blood worms. Everything ignored them.
I feed formula 1(flake and frozen), mysis and primereef. They mow it down and look health as hell to boot.
I feed formula 1(flake and frozen), mysis and primereef. They mow it down and look health as hell to boot.
Shoestring Reefer
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My fish will eat blood worms if I mix them in with frozen foods, but they won't eat plain blood worms.
InsaneClownFish
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Well she's warmed up to that frozen marine angel formula I have.
I'm going to supplement with golden pearls and pellets as soon as I can get my hands on some.
Marc, oh no! You forgot the golden pearls! :hammer:
PS- Marc, was that your thread awhile back with your food formula?
PSS- Marc- thanks for your advice on the sps, I'm gonna get the Pink Mili and Orange Cap. Someone else is also bringing me a pink/orange Digitada.
I'm going to supplement with golden pearls and pellets as soon as I can get my hands on some.
Marc, oh no! You forgot the golden pearls! :hammer:
PS- Marc, was that your thread awhile back with your food formula?
PSS- Marc- thanks for your advice on the sps, I'm gonna get the Pink Mili and Orange Cap. Someone else is also bringing me a pink/orange Digitada.
