Kurt03
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Run a bunch of carbon to remove the toxins. Feed the pods
Dinoflagellates.
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Ted_C
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Looks like I'm in the same boat as DNA - the Dinos came back for me.
I had let the tank get a bit dirty - so Cyano, bubble and green hair algae took the dino's place. After weekly water changes and wet skimming for a month - the cyano and green hair algae went away and the Dino's made a comeback. Turned off the skimmer for 6 days now and no water changes for 11 days - I'll see if I can beat them back again. Trying lights out (instead of blackout) this time around too.
I had let the tank get a bit dirty - so Cyano, bubble and green hair algae took the dino's place. After weekly water changes and wet skimming for a month - the cyano and green hair algae went away and the Dino's made a comeback. Turned off the skimmer for 6 days now and no water changes for 11 days - I'll see if I can beat them back again. Trying lights out (instead of blackout) this time around too.
Livingjewels
Member
Buy a boiler, and nuke them.. I don't know why people waste their time and effort blacking out etc) when I've got you a successful a tried a and tested method of eradication...
You'll not beat these by a gently, gently approach..
If I can caveat my comments by saying do it outside in the garden where steam can dissipate.
Don't breathe steam..
And then get back to enjoying your tank again..
You'll not beat these by a gently, gently approach..
If I can caveat my comments by saying do it outside in the garden where steam can dissipate.
Don't breathe steam..
And then get back to enjoying your tank again..
DNA
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I got a number of SPS frags 3 weeks ago. They clearly got shocked from the water quality in my tank and have been heading south since. I prepared the tank well before to no avail.
Does anyone know of a reefer with ostis or any other identified dinos that is doing really well with SPS corals?
In my experiance your SPS dreams will not come true if you have Ostreopsis in visible numbers.
Does anyone know of a reefer with ostis or any other identified dinos that is doing really well with SPS corals?
In my experiance your SPS dreams will not come true if you have Ostreopsis in visible numbers.
Livingjewels
Member
Since boiling the water, there has been no clear evidence or signs of their presence within the main water column all the typical slime etc has gone completely, I do however keep suffering with a localised issue to the tips of some Acropora a kind of burning.. Similar to the symptoms of of Dinoflagelletes where they attach and glupe up the snotty strings to the end.. I have no real way of making the identification all I know is I get what looks like tissue erosion then after a few weeks it slowly eats down the coral turning the skeleton brown as it goes.
I don't think anyone with dinos keeps anything successfully, it's all a matter of time before each one dies.
Anyone have an idea what the brown tips are caused by..?
I don't think anyone with dinos keeps anything successfully, it's all a matter of time before each one dies.
Anyone have an idea what the brown tips are caused by..?
Squidmotron
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This doesn't seem like a practical solution for most people.
Livingjewels
Member
I take on board your comments and Im sure many will agree with you, personally 8 month I spent fighting them day in day out become impractical to me...!
If I'd have known what I know now, my frags would now be colonies.. But hey, we all love hindsight..it's a wonderful thing..!
If I'd have known what I know now, my frags would now be colonies.. But hey, we all love hindsight..it's a wonderful thing..!
africangrey
Active member
people have been experimenting with bleach method after the metroplex failure, just google dinoflagellae and metroplex you will find the formula to use. It's easy and quick way to get rid of dino with minimum effect on the inhabitants.
The formula is 0.003/x% of chlorine=mL of bleach/gal.
DNA my dino practically work from the tips of acro's tips then eventually engulf the whole colony til RTN,
The formula is 0.003/x% of chlorine=mL of bleach/gal.
DNA my dino practically work from the tips of acro's tips then eventually engulf the whole colony til RTN,
Livingjewels
Member
Are you referring to a snot that forms with bubbles, or just the progressive destruction of the tissue around each tip?
I only ask because I no longer have any snot like symptoms, but I get a brown algea that forms once tissue is damaged appears to be working its way down.
Can't quite determine if it's dino in small populations or nutrient issues..
I only ask because I no longer have any snot like symptoms, but I get a brown algea that forms once tissue is damaged appears to be working its way down.
Can't quite determine if it's dino in small populations or nutrient issues..
jason2459
Well-known member
Well, hold on there. I had, as well as others, quite impressive results with metronidazole. It seems like you are following that thread over there so you can also find my results there in that thread and in a separate one I documented more details and summaries in this thread.
The bleach is still experimental. You didn't mention how many days is needed. We don't know exactly. Bleach also had some fish deaths. To the person experimenting fish death was an acceptable loss. So, yes it seems so far to be effective but we don't know if it is also truly 100% effective (I have my doubts), if it effects more then just what we want to target (we know if doesnt but dont know to what extent at the micro level), and is certainly more dangerous to overdose.
I am hesitant to try that method out due to the risk factors. Fish are what I care about most in my tank, next my anemones and the tiniest things you can look at. We know it's possible effects on fish but not on anemones or other small organisms.
africangrey
Active member
Yeah, I know when I first saw that post the thought of putting bleach into a tank is very scary proposition but I have to say I was really desperate to try anything. There one rabbit fish, two Randall's gobies, a candy cane shrimp pair and 2 cleaner shrimps. I started my first dose 2 days ago, after adding 3.75mL of 8% chlorine to my 100gal reef, all inhabitants (rabbit fish, two Randall's gobies, a candy cane shrimp pair and 2 cleaner shrimps) are still well and eating, though I don't really know the long term effect of bleach would have on the fish.
This morning after 2 days of 4 doses, a sample tank water were examined under the microscope and I saw dramatic reduction of dino. I am going to continue this regimen for 2 weeks and hopefully it would completely decimate any of those buggers.
Jason, I would love to see your summary and observation on the other site.
africangrey
Active member
I am on page 2, but really a work of art with lots of pictures and videos documenting before and after of metroplex.
Under the scope the dino you had doesn't seem like the nastiest of all "Ostreopsis ovata".
jason2459
Well-known member
I have it narrowed down to what I believe to be a type of Alexandrium.
africangrey
Active member
peridinium is ID'd in your thread, wondering if Metrozole is effective against the Ostis.
were you dosing 125mg/gal, I thought you doubled of what Todd was using at 250mg/gal.
were you dosing 125mg/gal, I thought you doubled of what Todd was using at 250mg/gal.
jason2459
Well-known member
Peridinium was my thought at first and matches the description. But I wasn't fully sure so kept trying to get a more defined ID. I found in a high contrast image a second "tail" which rules out peridinium. Which so far Alexandrium is the closest match I've found so far.
I did 250mg/gal and did a total of 10 days.
africangrey
Active member
Thanks for the clarification, it has been more than 2 weeks as the last posting was Jul 28, what is the status now? No visual dino?
One thing that struck me on the theory of biodiversity for curing the dino is that its seems like you have good population of pods early on but dinos were still running and dancing happily.
jason2459
Well-known member
I do see dino's but there's a lot of various types of those. The Larger dino (Alexandrium possibly) I have not seen yet. I doubt it's completely gone but it's greatly diminished so I haven't seen it in any samples I've taken recently as well.
I normally never see any kind of dino outbreak. I forced an outbreak though at the beginning of that thread.
africangrey
Active member
on the other note, since you id the size of Alexandrium to be 30-40 um, what was the rating of filter sock you used to catch the buggers. I can't even find anything lower than 100 um.
