Dinoflagellates.
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Fish Keeper82
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40X should suffice
http://www.algaeid.com/identification/
http://www.algaeid.com/identification/
Reef Ruler
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I've officially started the war on Dinos.
They didnt pop up in my tank until after I had gotten the GHA under control. After that they moved in pretty quick, but the tank is relatively new. So far what I've done, as of yesterday, is pulled my GFO reactor, set the skimmer to a drier setting....I'm planning on going with the "dirty" method, picked up a couple packs of pods from the LFS, and began a 3 day blackout. Started all of this at the same time yesterday, and I know that the blackout isn't very effective against dinos, I'm hoping with the pods and lack of GFO it might help a little bit. Oh, and I got a couple lb rock from their system in hopes of adding some beneficial bacteria that their system had that mine didnt.
I've pretty much spent the last couple days reading this thread, and I was trying to go to sleep but started thinking about the dinos. Thats saying something right there lol. I've got a problem. Anyway, the idea hit me and I'm not sure how effective it'd be, but I wanted to run it by you guys. Basically, with the dirty method, what we're trying to do is allow the Dinos competition to grow and out compete them for nutrients, as well as introduce pods and bacteria in hopes that will work as well.
Before the Dinos hit, I was planning on setting up my tank for a lot of SPS. Now I'm battling this, and luckily I had only gotten two SPS frags so far. Assuming we are talking the dirty method here, do you guys think it would be beneficial to add a product like Acropower? Everything I've read on this product says if its used in a higher nutrient tank, which is what we're trying to accomplish with the "dirty method," be prepared for an algae bloom and even cyano. I was thinking it might be useful to encourage other algae to grow and out compete the dinos.
On the other hand, whatever snake oil is in this acropower stuff could just be like steroids for the dinos and make them grow faster than ever.
Thanks
Brian
They didnt pop up in my tank until after I had gotten the GHA under control. After that they moved in pretty quick, but the tank is relatively new. So far what I've done, as of yesterday, is pulled my GFO reactor, set the skimmer to a drier setting....I'm planning on going with the "dirty" method, picked up a couple packs of pods from the LFS, and began a 3 day blackout. Started all of this at the same time yesterday, and I know that the blackout isn't very effective against dinos, I'm hoping with the pods and lack of GFO it might help a little bit. Oh, and I got a couple lb rock from their system in hopes of adding some beneficial bacteria that their system had that mine didnt.
I've pretty much spent the last couple days reading this thread, and I was trying to go to sleep but started thinking about the dinos. Thats saying something right there lol. I've got a problem. Anyway, the idea hit me and I'm not sure how effective it'd be, but I wanted to run it by you guys. Basically, with the dirty method, what we're trying to do is allow the Dinos competition to grow and out compete them for nutrients, as well as introduce pods and bacteria in hopes that will work as well.
Before the Dinos hit, I was planning on setting up my tank for a lot of SPS. Now I'm battling this, and luckily I had only gotten two SPS frags so far. Assuming we are talking the dirty method here, do you guys think it would be beneficial to add a product like Acropower? Everything I've read on this product says if its used in a higher nutrient tank, which is what we're trying to accomplish with the "dirty method," be prepared for an algae bloom and even cyano. I was thinking it might be useful to encourage other algae to grow and out compete the dinos.
On the other hand, whatever snake oil is in this acropower stuff could just be like steroids for the dinos and make them grow faster than ever.
Thanks
Brian
karimwassef
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I don't use Acropower, but I do use Restor. I had a dying coral I got from a friend and I believe this stuff saved it. Then I got a tankfull of suffering corals and almost all recovered - again, I believe it was due to this stuff.
So - here's a little hint - Algae is not bad. It's good. In fact, it's great. I've been using an ATS and exporting excess nutrients but feeding my tank constantly.
Here's a couple of threads from a former dino sufferer - FEED YOUR REEF, FEED IT (spoken with an Irish accent like the guy who advertises "feed your lawn, feed it").
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2545088
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2546944
It's not really dirty if you export the excess and it's healthy if the biofauna in the algae promotes health.
It's the difference between being a weakling who never goes outside - or an athlete who goes out and gets dirty, then takes a shower to get clean. Both are clean in the end, but which one is healthier?
So - here's a little hint - Algae is not bad. It's good. In fact, it's great. I've been using an ATS and exporting excess nutrients but feeding my tank constantly.
Here's a couple of threads from a former dino sufferer - FEED YOUR REEF, FEED IT (spoken with an Irish accent like the guy who advertises "feed your lawn, feed it").
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2545088
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2546944
It's not really dirty if you export the excess and it's healthy if the biofauna in the algae promotes health.
It's the difference between being a weakling who never goes outside - or an athlete who goes out and gets dirty, then takes a shower to get clean. Both are clean in the end, but which one is healthier?
Maxxingout
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So what's the scoop on trying to use the dirty method to fight off dinos while also trying to fight off bryopsis?
karimwassef
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Get an ATS. It'll keep your tank healthy while creating a preferential zone for algae.
Use crabs, snails, urchins, tangs, sea hares, etc... they'll keep your DT clean, so the algae will just shift to the ATS.
The most voracious algae eaters are sea hares. The most persistent and omni-algae-eating creature is the sea urchin.
IME, anyway...
Use crabs, snails, urchins, tangs, sea hares, etc... they'll keep your DT clean, so the algae will just shift to the ATS.
The most voracious algae eaters are sea hares. The most persistent and omni-algae-eating creature is the sea urchin.
IME, anyway...
DNA
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These two at the same time is not a pretty sight.
You could go with a turf scrubber, but it was a free roaming turf algae that killed off my Bryopsis some years ago.
karimwassef
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Competition - help your friends (or controlled allies) - to defeat your enemies!
Jewilson83
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Update from post #2316: I dosed 6 doses even though after the 5th dose they were gone. No more Dinos 12/09/15-12/26/15. 2 days after last dose I did a 10% WC, Carbon and back to feeding my corals and fish like before. Lighting scheduled was slowly ramped back from all blues to every color I have lol. Nothing died. I'll keep updating periodically. My only regret was that I didn't identify which one I had to further help the cause. I hope my posts help much.
DNA
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I'm glad you got rid of what was bothering you, but I looked at your previous posts and I can't find your success useful for others due to lack of information on type of dinos or if it was even dinos you got rid of.
Did you post any images before the treatment besides from the jar ones?
Did you post any images before the treatment besides from the jar ones?
Jewilson83
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I stated in the last post #2369, "My only regret was that I didn't identify which one I had to further help the cause". I was tired of the Dino getting worse, smothering my frags and killing my inverts. So instead of buying a magnifying glass, I bought Dino X. Post #2245 have a few pics that I posted. I posted my experience and method I used.
mannyhernz
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Where did you purchase dino x?
Jewilson83
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Too early to tell yet, but I believe that Dino x has given me the upper hand on a battle that's lasted months. I reduced the lighting period back to 6 hrs a day and I'm dosing per the instructions. I haven't seen a trace of Dinos in about 2 weeks now. I used to see them about 15 mins after lights on, but not any more.
mannyhernz
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What kind of tank? By that i mean sps, lps? I have an sps dominated tank and looking into using it but afraid it would kill off some of my pieces
Jewilson83
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My tank is SPS dominated. Nothing died. Some Acros lightened up slightly, but are now back to normal after 1-2 weeks.
seamonster124
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Here's a video of Ostreopsis surviving two drops of Dino-x. 3rd drop slowed them down, and they appeared to be dead after 4th drop.
So based on my haphazard calculations, you'd need 3-4 gallons of dino-x per US gallon to kill them.
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DNA
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That's how to do it. Well done seamonster124.
Judged on the reports from the participants in this thread we can safely say AlgeaX and DinoX are useless on Ostreopsis dinoflagellates.
It should say so on the bottle and in their ads since Ostreopsis is likely to be the most common dino species that plague our tanks.
Judged on the reports from the participants in this thread we can safely say AlgeaX and DinoX are useless on Ostreopsis dinoflagellates.
It should say so on the bottle and in their ads since Ostreopsis is likely to be the most common dino species that plague our tanks.
