DIY LEDs - The write-up

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First of all I want to thank everybody on her for all the great information, no way I would have attempted this without the knowledge on this thread and the other diy led threads.

Second I have a few questions of my own just to see if I am going in the right direction.

I am doing a build for a 160 gallon tank 60Lx24Wx26H I ordered 96 cree leds total I am planning to run 4 parallel strings of 24. pretty much just like the build of necularheli.

I plan on doing 60 RB XP-E, 30CW XP-G, and 6 NW and using 5 60-48D per kcress advice.

I am still kind of lost on the driver situation, I want to do dimming and want to have dusk-dawn effect.

I am planning to use to 1-10v supply from my apex Neptune but need some advice on this also. anyone using it now? how hard was set up?

My question is do I need to have a resistor and fuse set up for all drivers or do I set up a master for all together.

Also do you anything extra to run the dimming and dusk-dawn effect?
I know I need pots, but do I run one per diver or one per color? and are the pots set up before or after the fuses and resistors?

Thanks in advance for all your help!

I am using the apex to dim some 60-48D's right now. If you look in the unofficial Apex user guide in the neptune systems sponsor thread it shows how to program them to do the sunrise/sunset. There is also some info on reefledlights.com. If those don't make sense PM me and I will be more than happy to help.
 
ok I am adjusting my drivers what is the best setting for it?

i am using Mean Well ELN-60-48D dimmable driver with CREE XP-E Royal Blue 3W LED and CREE XP-G R5 Cool White 3W LED different drivers for each color 14 leds per driver.

thanks
 
I have a question I cant seem to find the answer to in this massive amount of info:

When choosing a power supply, choosing the proper voltage is easy, but I want to know if the amount of amps the power supply is capable of should me my requirements exactly or if it should exceed it by some amount? (and no, i am not using meanwells)

example: I will have 10 strings of 4 leds driven at 700ma. So my requirements are about 15v and 7a. Do I want a power supply of 15v and 7a or one with 15v and more than 7a so that it is not being used at 100% load???

Thanks
 
ok I am adjusting my drivers what is the best setting for it?

i am using Mean Well ELN-60-48D dimmable driver with CREE XP-E Royal Blue 3W LED and CREE XP-G R5 Cool White 3W LED different drivers for each color 14 leds per driver.

thanks

I set the drivers to 100% and then adjusted the XPGs to 1000 mA(1 amp) and the XPEs to 750 mA. Reefledlights has a good video on youtube or their website about adjusting the drivers. If everyone cant tell I am really happy with their service.
 
I have a question I cant seem to find the answer to in this massive amount of info:

When choosing a power supply, choosing the proper voltage is easy, but I want to know if the amount of amps the power supply is capable of should me my requirements exactly or if it should exceed it by some amount? (and no, i am not using meanwells)

example: I will have 10 strings of 4 leds driven at 700ma. So my requirements are about 15v and 7a. Do I want a power supply of 15v and 7a or one with 15v and more than 7a so that it is not being used at 100% load???

Thanks

I remember discussing this either in this thread or in the DIY driver thread, but yes it is there somewhere. :fun2:

In summary, I think kcress recommended that you use up to 80% of the power supply's max output and no more than that.

So if you will be using 7A max, then you should get a power supply that can output at least 8.75A.
 
I haven't done any research on the other models. You would need a drive that puts out around 80 VDC. However, that is a higher voltage than what many people recommend (or consider safe), especially near salt water. Can you not go with 12 per string as has been commonly done?

CJ
 
I would need to run 8 drivers then for 96 leds, right?

I was thinking about the 24 per string because thats how kcress did his build and successfully ran the 24 with one driver and ran the leds at around 700 ma each.

For what I understand running them at this rate will help keep heat down and also make led last longer.
 
I didn't look at his latest build, but I assume it was similar to mine where you use 2 strings of 12 LEDs run in parallel at 700mA from each driver. That is 24 LEDs per driver, but only 12 per string.

CJ
 
kirsto71, I'm confused
3 panels seems odd with 4 drivers
"4 Thomas Research Product drivers with 48 LEDs " or Each driver will operate a bank of 12 LEDs
How big is the tank? "direct light at the centre 2 foot width of the tank" or "i need to directly light 6 foot by 2 foot by 2 foot deep" which sounds like the whole tank

You always better understand your own ramblings.:hmm3:

The tank will be 6 foot long and 3 foot wide but i will only be aquascaping down the centre line of the tank. Therefore i only need to provide higher light levels to that area where the corals will be placed. Secondly there will be 3 LED fixtures each one will have 48 LEDS in a set of 4 strings with 12 LEDs. With each string driven by its own driver.
 
Hey, could use a little help on testing my drivers. I am building a 96 LED rig being run by 2 HLG-150H-48B drivers (4 strings of 12 run in parallel per driver). I will eventually have the drivers hooked up to a ALC module via RKL. So the driver has NO internal pot to lower the current to do some tests. It only has the 2 external blue/white wires. I wanted to hook a driver up to a single LED to ensure the power is wired good, but I don't want to throw 3.2 amps at a single LED.

2.8 amps spread over 4 strings of 12 LEDs being run in parallel is 700ma per string. The drivers are rated at 3.2 amps, so if run at full power that would be 800ma per string, which is okay if hooked up to all the LEDs. I don't plan on running at full power once up and running.

To do some testing/balancing, I figured it would be best to turn down the power. How should I go about this? Should I just get a temp manual pot to hook up to a driver? I would need to ensure it is turned down when the driver is powered up for the first time, how do I do that without frying any LEDs? Should I forget the single LED test, and just hook up to the entire rig (and hope for the best), then turn down with a manual pot? Can I plug in the driver without any LEDs and turn it down with a manual pot, maybe just wiring my meter and testing the output that way? How would I do this? Hope this is clear, let me know if not. Thanks.
 
I have a question I cant seem to find the answer to in this massive amount of info:

When choosing a power supply, choosing the proper voltage is easy, but I want to know if the amount of amps the power supply is capable of should me my requirements exactly or if it should exceed it by some amount? (and no, i am not using meanwells)

example: I will have 10 strings of 4 leds driven at 700ma. So my requirements are about 15v and 7a. Do I want a power supply of 15v and 7a or one with 15v and more than 7a so that it is not being used at 100% load???

Thanks

S&KGray summed up my rule. Don't push a switcher past more than about 85% or cooling becomes very important and life time will be reduced.

I don't apply that to Meanwells as they generally expect to be be pushed to 100%. Also with something like a MW they are actually not at 100% when running at their rating.
 
chris023, The HLG-150H-48B has a minimum output voltage of 24 volts DO NOT HOOK UP ONE LED you probably need 8-12 depends on LED type. At that point you should be able to hook up a potentiometer to run just one string.
 
chris023, The HLG-150H-48B has a minimum output voltage of 24 volts DO NOT HOOK UP ONE LED you probably need 8-12 depends on LED type. At that point you should be able to hook up a potentiometer to run just one string.

Cool, thanks!
Also, it may sound obvious, but I just want to make sure that turning the dial on a external pot all the way counter clockwise before firing up the driver will actually start the driver at full dim, correct?
 
It depends on which lead you have the pot wired up. Usually if it's turned 'as far away' from the outside lead (assuming the center and one outside lead are connected), then it should be the max resistance (dimmest), but I have to admit I haven't tried the drivers in this thread.

I would recommend checking it with an ohmeter to make sure. Although, I would wire it up so it wouldn't blow an LED if it's wrong. Then just fiddle :)

== John ==​
 
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