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From the way i have read this thread 2x4 legs are fine.

2x8 along the front, sides and back of the tanks should support from what I have read. Cross bracing won't hurt. If acrylic then cross braces and plywood top are required.

You could double the 2x8, but why sped the extra money?


It is acrylic and definitly plan 3/4" plywood top.
Ok, so the if I do cross brace. Do i anchor this into the side 2x8's with hangers.....like this?

http://www.homedepot.com/Building-M...splay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
 
Hmm there have been no comments on how to do that. I did pocket screws, but I have a glass tank so there is no real with on them. that hanger seems expensive "$59.50/EA-Each", but maybe because you linked to a 4x8 size. When I did a deck they were a lot cheaper. I guess that would be the best option. Make sure to use screws so that it will keep the top from twisting (hanger nails would pull out I think). maybe someone with more experience will post a better option.
 
Hmm there have been no comments on how to do that. I did pocket screws, but I have a glass tank so there is no real with on them. that hanger seems expensive "$59.50/EA-Each", but maybe because you linked to a 4x8 size. When I did a deck they were a lot cheaper. I guess that would be the best option. Make sure to use screws so that it will keep the top from twisting (hanger nails would pull out I think). maybe someone with more experience will post a better option.


LOL....i linked you for a BOX of 50. Plus i was really just trying to get the picture idea across. Of which I thik you got... :spin1:

they are only like $2 each!
 
Also which chould I go with:??

one 2x8 cross brace running the 66" length centered or

2 -2x8 cross braces running the 36" length? one at say 22" & the other at like 44"
 
I think the 36" inch length would be better. It would help to hold the sides vertical. It would also not hurt to do 3, but from what I read where you placed them should work.
 
Great thanks for your input!

I will see if anyone else chimes in about the way to mount these cross supports. seems 2-3 stainless screws throught the 2x8 into the cross braces as well as hangers should suffice. I will look into 3 cross braces, assuming they don't interfer w/ my plumbing under the tank.
 
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Since those hangers are used in construction, I'm sure they have been thoroughly studied and have ratings and codes that specify how many screws of what types must be used to support a specified maximum weight. You just need to figure out where to look up those ratings and codes. be very careful when mounting those, because it's very easy to mount them a little too low or a little too high, and in your application flushness matters a lot.

Also be aware that using hangers to support the cross members, instead of legs, is a fundamentally different design than what has been explored in this thread, so you're breaking new ground to some extent. Watch out for unforeseen things, like what might happen if a water leak softens the wood around the screws holding a hanger, or how salt water might corrode a hanger. You might want to do some research into how well those things work for aquarium stands in practice.
 
I plan the main 2x8 frame supports to be resting on the legs. Just trying to figure how to attach cross braces? Recomendations? Again acrylic tank. Needs bottom support.
 
Mikev15101 Heck of a first post Welcome to Reef Central

Thank you...I have to admit I have been sneaking around for awhile now. I just haven't really talked much. I have read every post of this thread twice and i appreciated the advice everybody was able to provide. I showed my friend the blueprint and he thought it was a great idea. We have full trust in the design we just wanted to beef it up more. It was great seeing how everyone did it differently.
 
250g 66L x 36W x24T stand for Acrylic tank

250g 66L x 36W x24T stand for Acrylic tank

Ok attaching a pic of what I am thinking. The studs on the legs with the slash marks would be the 2x4 screw strips. Since in wall, the front of tank underneath needs no access, so I am going to use a 2x6 center support. The back of the tank I want full access, so planned doubling the span. I will top this w/ 3/4" plywood...or thinner if recommended

Questions:
-i am planning on doubling up the back main 2x8's....as such would the left corner or the right corner be a prefferred design for the legs? I plan pocket screws too.
-are the 3 -2x8 cross braces sufficient to support the top deck.
-If i kept everything as is: center support on the front side and double beams on back, would 2x6's work for the frame & cross braces. Reason being to gain some more height room under tank?
-Also Ok for the sides of the fram to run the full 36" w and have the front & back of the top frame run 63" between the sides?

Thanks again
 

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I am lost on question one. Both corners need support. With pocket scres you don't need a screw strip. According to the original post 2x6 will have less than a 1/8 bow so I read that is you are find with the extra fron and doubling the back.

Having seen a picture and thinking it through a little more. I forgot about the ply wood so. Use 4 2x6 across the tank and support each end and the end board. Add a few support to keep it from wracking. The current design (and I know I sort of suggested it) does not support the internal bracing.
 
question on corners is..which design is better. The left on or right one. Or either. I am not following you for the cross braces.
 
Planning on using this template for my new 8x2x2 aquarium that ought to be arriving around Thanksgiving week :)

One thing I've not seen mentioned is putting a base of 0.5" or 0.75" plywood underneath the bottom 2x4's. This ought to be ok, right ? I'm just trying to create a trough to put the sump into, so that if ([insert deity] forbid) it does overflow, the hardwood floors aren't the first target of the saltwater...

The tank appears to require support everywhere, despite being a glass tank - GlassCages insist I should have a plywood top, and then put the 0.75" styrofoam on top of that, and then the tank. I guess they know what their tanks need... You'd think it was acrylic or something...

So, I'll end up having plywood on the top, on the bottom, and at least 1/2 way down the back (the top-half, I need to be able to get to the mains sockets behind the tank when it's done). Is that likely to provide sufficient "skinning" for strength ?

I'm planning on using 2x8 for the top 96" span, with a center brace at 48". From what I've read, that ought to be fine. Just wanted to confirm :)

Cheers
Simon...
 
Since in wall, the front of tank underneath needs no access, so I am going to use a 2x6 center support.
The whole point of using 2x8's instead of 2x6's for the horizontal pieces is so that you won't need an additional vertical "center support", but it can't hurt, and it will reduce the <1/8" deflection to almost zero. But don't buy any extra wood for it (like a 2x6) just use a piece of 2x4 or whatever you have laying around.
The back of the tank I want full access, so planned doubling the span.
Using two 2x8's on one side is unnecessary, and complicates the design, a single 2x8 is more than sufficient.
I will top this w/ 3/4" plywood...or thinner if recommended
I wouldn't go thinner than 3/4" plywood

Questions:
-i am planning on doubling up the back main 2x8's....as such would the left corner or the right corner be a preferred design for the legs? I plan pocket screws too.
If you must double up the 2x8's, I like the design on the right better. The design on the left is making a 2x4 do double duty, as both a leg, and as a screw strip. If the two legs aren't exactly the same length, or the floor under them isn't exactly flat, then there will be sheer stress on the screws. If you use pocket screws you don't need a screw strip, but a screw strip is better because it provides some protection against wracking (folding) that pocket screws do not. If you use pocket screws, you'll need to skin the sides, or at least use triangles in all the corners (I'd do that even if I used screw strips). I suspect that sheet rock (dry wall?) is a sufficient skin. Even a medium sized earthquake can move a couple inches side to side, and without more support those corners could fold with that much weight on top trying to NOT move side to side.
-are the 3 -2x8 cross braces sufficient to support the top deck.
There will only be about 15" between them, so yes, more than good enough. 2x6's would also be more than enough.
-If i kept everything as is: center support on the front side and double beams on back, would 2x6's work for the frame & cross braces. Reason being to gain some more height room under tank?
For sure you can substitute 2x6's for 2x8's everywhere except maybe for the double's along the back. While a single 2x8 would be fine there, two 2x6's probably wouldn't be. The cross members will be hanging on only the inside one of the pair, so it will be taking much more than half of the load for the pair. Also, even a very slight bowing of the "flat" top will cause the plywood to push down along the inside edge of the inside 2x6, and push down very lightly, if at all, on the outside one. Using two instead of one is a fundamentally different design, and so is unstudied and untested. The inside 2x6 would be holding most, if not all, of the weight for the pair, and we know a single 2x6 wouldn't be enough. Using a single 2x8, on the other hand, we know for sure will work.
-Also Ok for the sides of the fram to run the full 36" w and have the front & back of the top frame run 63" between the sides?
Sure, no problem. As long as the end of every horizontal piece has at least part of a vertical leg under it, you'll have no problem.
 
Planning on using this template for my new 8x2x2 aquarium that ought to be arriving around Thanksgiving week :)

One thing I've not seen mentioned is putting a base of 0.5" or 0.75" plywood underneath the bottom 2x4's. This ought to be ok, right ? I'm just trying to create a trough to put the sump into, so that if ([insert deity] forbid) it does overflow, the hardwood floors aren't the first target of the saltwater...

The tank appears to require support everywhere, despite being a glass tank - GlassCages insist I should have a plywood top, and then put the 0.75" styrofoam on top of that, and then the tank. I guess they know what their tanks need... You'd think it was acrylic or something...

So, I'll end up having plywood on the top, on the bottom, and at least 1/2 way down the back (the top-half, I need to be able to get to the mains sockets behind the tank when it's done). Is that likely to provide sufficient "skinning" for strength ?

I'm planning on using 2x8 for the top 96" span, with a center brace at 48". From what I've read, that ought to be fine. Just wanted to confirm :)

Cheers
Simon...
The catch trough is a really good idea. 1/4" or 3/8" plywood would be fine down there.
They say the screw strips are enough to prevent wracking, so if you believe that then skinning 1/2 the back would be sufficient. I live in earthquake country, and I want more rigid corners. I would suggest putting plywood triangles at each 90 degree angle on the unskinned sides, at least at the corners (12 triangles in all).

If you're putting in center braces at 48", it's like a stand for a 48" long tank, so you could use 2x4's instead of 2x8's (really).
 
110 as C-Rad pointer out with the current design the cross braces are held by the 6 foot run. On second thought I thought this as a bad idea. So rather than have 3 vertical (in your picture) support 36 iches (or so) long. Use two that are 6 geet (or so) long. Have 4 legs on the ends so each one is supported.

As mentioned many times a horizontal run should have support at each end. It was not till I saw the picture and thought acrylic that I ut it all together in my head.

I hope this helps.
 
Here is a couple pics of the one I'm building, 48 x 18 x 32 All done with 3/4" and 1/4 Oak plywood
 

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Quick question? After reading some of the early thread again Im wondering if I will be ok with the 2x6 used all the way around and only the supports in the back...but with the 2x6 legs it creates more surface area i would think. I don't know I always worry about these things.
 
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