do zoas compete w/ each other?

Capt_Cully

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I have a new tank set up. My area of interest has always been SPS so little experience w/ Zoas as far as having them thrive. I'd like a zoa garden in the new tank. Can I just buy a bunch of different colored ones and put them near each other? Will they fight it out, or grow together into a nice mat???


Thanks
Cully
 
Hard to determine which will react in whose tank but...

For example....

I have PPRPE's that are next to some Kaleidoscopes...The new polyps coming out of the PPRPE's are smothered cause for every one the PPRPE puts out the kaleidoscope puts out about 10 and before the PPRPE gets a change to bud all the way the kaleidoscope has already attached.
 
So as I'm aquiring frags and polyps, best to give each one some room? Opposed to plopping them right next to each other hoping for a nice varied mat.

I know these may be rudimentary questions for you guys, but I sincerely appreciate the pointers.
 
Re: do zoas compete w/ each other?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13027915#post13027915 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Capt_Cully
I have a new tank set up. My area of interest has always been SPS so little experience w/ Zoas as far as having them thrive. I'd like a zoa garden in the new tank. Can I just buy a bunch of different colored ones and put them near each other? Will they fight it out, or grow together into a nice mat???


Thanks
Cully

Not really, at least not in the since in which I think you think they compete. I think Eklikewhoa hits the nail square on the head. Some will simply proliferate faster than others. Your system's maturity, current/flow and parameters will always determine the rate or acceleration of growth. Also, the size of your tank and the amount of live rock will determine the placement of your frags. Nano system won't afford you many options. With limited space, it will be hard to place them greater distances apart. In larger systems, and in my opinion only, I like to place small cuttings or frags on individual rocks of many different sizes from 3 x 4 " to 5 x 6" rock. Doing so will allow much latitude for growth that will give a natural looking coverage and appeal in your tank. This is what I've always shot for. The mixed colors on a single rock looks great for some, I don't prefer it, but that's me and it doesn't make it right or wrong. Each tank is unique and you should proceed in a manner that pleases you and your family.

I wouldn't buy what everyone else buys or haves. I say buy what excites you, that which catches your eye or drops your jaw. Don't go near a name for the sack of buying a name, again, rely on what makes you smile. I buy colors which are bright and vibrant that I can see from across the room. I have never seen an ugly polyp in a macro photograph, they all look stunning. But remember, you aren't going to see all of those tiny little dots, sparkles, hair line rings, tiny bright purple rings around the oral slit or the 4 colors in the skirts unless your face is pressed against the front glass and they're sitting right up front. This is what you are doing when you look at a macro shot.

I see you have a 180 gallon system which means you can do an awful lot with your placement. If you want to place many different variations of colors on a single rock, be sure to purchase polyps of the same height and diameter and place them in a scattered pattern on the rock at least 1 to 2 inches apart. This will prevent larger polyps from choking off smaller polyps and shading them from receiving any light. Proper spacing will allow them room to grow in erratically. Never place larger palys on a rock or near smaller zoanthids, mortality will be the end result if not bleaching. With a 180, you could easily attach frags to larger rocks and watch the growth over time. Don't be concern with how the quarter size chunk of rock looks glued to a rock, in time, they will grow onto the larger rock and then you can break off the frag you placed on the rock and give it away or trade it. The space left on the larger rock with close as the polyps around it fill in. I've done this many times.

Sorry to go overboard, but I hope this sheds a bit of light on your situation. Good luck my friend and please remember to share the end results with us.

Mucho Reef
 
Mucho, I sincerely appreciate the indepth reply. I'm keeping my 180 SPS. I have a new tank in which the only inhabitants will be a few pipefish. It's a 70gallon Oceanic Tech tank. The aquascape is Tonga branch. There's several more pounds of LR in the sump for filtration.

I've begun to accumulate some zoo and paly frags. I've seen what the hysteria can turn into in the SPS trade. I do have some "big name" corals. But mostly I just like what I like regardless of how hard it is to aquire, or what it's fancy street name is.

Same goes for zoos with me. I just light the nice bright colors. I could care less if it has some fancy name. Personally it's too much to try to learn and remember. My goal is to keep them happy, not make a buck off of them (same does not go for my SPS collection).

Like I said, I'm just ramping up. Right side will be yummas, ricordia, and some acans with a center piece scoly or two. Left side, all zoos with some larger gorgs and soft corals at the top.

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huh that will be diffrent

also as far as the zoa's smoothering the others if you try and kep the rock work open enough to where you can make cuttings (frags) to thin out the weeds then that would help you out a great deal as well. Zoa's won't grow under the rock so if your angles have all you top rock facing the front of the tank when you into the side and see all the uncovered rock.

Edit: they will grow under the rock and extend long stalks to get to the light but that will take a long time.
 
that looks and sounds like a lot of fun. keep us updated please! if that comes out the way i'm imagining it in my head it will turn out great.
 
Appreciate it. I've gotten some really nice frags from a collection. I've gone over the system and he seems confident it will succede. The deal is, i have to give him frags back of what I grow. I can live with that!

I'll definitely post pics as system gets up to speed. Keeping in mind my macrophotography skills are feeble at best...
 
In my experience (and as stated above), anything brown or gray will outgrow and smother any other color.
 
I agree with seapug.

Not that you care, but it might help... I put my frags and colonies on the substrate when I first introduce them to my system until I get a feeling for how they grow and react, which are finniky, which are less so. This will help you decide if you want those brown or gray polyps in the mix. Based on how they do after a couple weeks, I place them where I think they will do best with corresponding placement.

I know this might be overkill but I rushed through the process in the past and hated the result. I have definitely slowed things down this time around.

Good luck.
 
I've got a feeling, growth will be slow for me for a while. The tank is still very young so there's alot of flux.

I hear where you're coming from. Again, from an SPS standpoint, I grabbed tons of frags at the onset. Some were just fillers and now are huge and taking up prime realestate. Now I have to snap them off and revamp etc.

I don't want to relive this with zoos that are matted onto a tricky aquascape. I'm placing everything in areas where they'll have enough room. I do have some brown's. I think they may color up into a blue or purple, but regardless, I have them at different placements and separate from the others. I'll keep a sharp eye.
 
Keep us updated on your progress. Often times we see threads like this pop up only to never see them again.

Let us know what, why, when, and anything else you feel like sharing.

That is, if you have the time. We all get busy but it would benefit us all if we saw someone's progress.
 
Those babies are one of the harder species to rare aren't they. compared to the african blue line species. I had a couple of those 2 before in my frag tank.. didn't fare well even with cyclopeeze and brine.
 
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